not really-- the game been oout in korea, russia, and japan,
Ive played on RU servers and the game’s pvp is alot better than this.
AGS is just the publisher here-- they arent coding the game.
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You have hope!!
Even with this change crafted Gear will still be the best, when RNG favours the crafter, but now you will need to grind the WM before you’re able to make full use of it.
It is allready really hard to get the desired BiS-piece, when crafting for GS 600 armor.
Even when you’re able to utilize the dungeon remake armor, you will still need to roll between GS 595 -600 (with perfect Buffs) + 2 random perks. Some of us may not be able to utilize the dungeon remake parts, because of wrong attributes. Nevertheless crafted gear can be able to be BiS with right Attributes, jewel slot and 3 good perks.
I spend a lot of time lvling up smelting, loomering, tannery and armoring, gathering ressources, instead of buying them, because most other activities are killing my fps. While i did some casual WM farming, im only sitting at smth like 530-540.
I was planning to upgrade my PC soon and split my gametime between OPR and farming reccources/crafting, because i did not really enjoy the WM farm i was getting my hands on. Since i allready know OPR is not great in upgrading WM, now i am pushed towards doing those Chest/Elite-Runs, just to activate the real power of my gear, which i allready spent huge investment on.
One thing which comes in my mind when looking at legendary Items vs Epic items.
When my Expertise is 520 and I’m wearing a GS 600 hammer ; is the last perk going to apply at all, using GS 520 numbers, or will it be deactivated?
So…when you reside on a server that is low pop (like 75% of the current servers) and there are little to no opportunities to get groups together for Reek runs, Myrk runs or Genesis/Lazerus expeditions because of wars, invasions, OPRs, turkey chasers, etc.; how does one “grind”?
I was never on the ‘game is going to die’ bandwagon until this patch note. This expertise system will only make the grind worse. And since the trading post market place will damn near be destroyed by this ridiculous, weed-induced coma dream change, the TP will be used for raw materials and town board projects.
Wait, does anyone do town board projects? Are fish fillets a thing of the past??
All the 600GS I paid gold for will now become 520 because I refuse to sit in mind-numbing zerg runs?
Yea. Times up for this one. Thanks for the 60 levels. Back to Cyberpunk 2077 so I can remind myself of another disaster.
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I have been around MMO’s since the start (EQ) and I go with the flow on changes, nerfs, system designs (good and bad), etc, but this change takes the cake. Players are essentially being punished “temporarily” for … grinding crafting, punished! For grinding gathering to earn money, punished! For grinding OPR and wars, punished! For essentially grinding everything EXCEPT HWM, PUNISHED.
No player should go backwards in effectiveness. Change what you want going forward, but this system should not cause anyone to go backwards. Unacceptable.
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I couldn’t agree more. This is a huge change that impacts so much of the game. The development thought process should have been hundreds of levels deep yet it seems like the AGS thought process didn’t even break the surface.
Grinding was too much ? Well ok, how about we make grinding mandatory now ? 
Totally agree. This is my biggest gripe about delayed changes. I get bugs that helped the few that caught on early and exploited them. I get those changes, but this just punishes those people who can’t no-life the game.
The idea is supposed to be sometimes to help narrow the gap between the hard cores and semi casuals, not widen it. It’s ass-backwards
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Dunno what genius thought that this idea is great . Like i cant wait my 600 wep to "scale " down in effectiveness to 520 one…not like i paid 40 k for it or anything . I guess i should’ve run in myrk trains every 23 h and now i am being punished that i didnt…? like what the heck
that’s fine and dandy, but you’re basically reinforcing my previous argument. Not sure what you intended here
Yea except what happens to the people that spent hours and hours grind out watermark already? Just a "sorry you wasted your time. Enjoy starting over’?
This is going to be hard to do with weapon mastery weapons are lvl 580? What are they going to do with those? Nerf them? Even AGS in their talks about those weapons was how they will help you to your watermark catches up.
This change would make crafting 600 gear worthless. The exact opposite what they just said they wanted. They wanted to make crafted gear worth more. This is not a good thing
And the fact people have no way to control watermark drops. I see boots and helm more then anything. Never see weapons. I’m 550 with most gear, weapons are like 515. Shit never drops
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Doesn’t it just feel like a slap in the face to anyone who did something other than what the streamers were doing?
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Indeed indeed mate 
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Grinding was too much ? Well ok, how about we buff the elite mobs and make grinding mandatory now ?..fxt
I know right, Tarnished?
Does this translate to PvP?? Bc if it does your gonna wipe out your player base