Also you have to think of it the other way around, they are buying the 590GS stuff to have fun playing parts of the game that rise your GS. Running for example genesis or lazarus in 500 or 590 is a world of difference. We are not buying stuff to completely ignore the Expertise system but to be ABLE to take part in it. Especially so in PVP. If you want to play pvp you have to have some decent gear but if you are suddenly blocked from being able to even out the playing field then you have to be pretty darn masochistic to even consider it. The new system forces you to go and beat level 60+ elite mobs but if you have to do so with pretty much the same firepower or survivability of a lvl59 player you wont have fun doing so and are properly going to get wrecked over and over. Not a very fulfilling endgame content imho.
Furthermore the whole economy of the game is gonna get wrecked and that hard. People who sold 600GS crafted stuff wont be able to get their usual income so they wont craft as much, in turn materials wont be in need as much, which in turn cripples the income of lower players. its a downwards spiral. They want ppl to earn their right to have 3 T4 houses but with this change i have to ask, HOW?! PVE is not lucrative enough, crafting wont be able earn you your keep, and in pvp you will get wrecked by the guys who exploited bugs and mechanics that aren’t there anymore.
Every other change they announced is great and helps the game immensely. BUT to downgrade gear to the HWM is the one thing that pretty much makes all the good changes void because you cant take part in the new grind because you are hard blocked on your DMG/surviabilty to pretty much lvl59 at the start of lvl60 until you somehow got your HWM up.
Please AGS, I really like the game and can understand some of your choices but I implore you, please don’t pull through with that. You are gonna kill the game for every casual player. There will always be a gap between casuals and 24/7 players, just accept this fact. The consequences of this are far more far reaching than you are thinking.
It’s not a misquote, it was the entire post. I guess if you are gonna say the opposite somewhere else you should just edit your first post to reflect your change of stance?
Although my gear and wm levels are pretty close, this is one of the most absurd update ever.
They are forcing ppl actually farming wm, instead of buying crafted gear. It is a slap to the crafters, who spent hours to max their crafting. Why will ppl buy high gs items when they can’t use them effectively.
Some people don’t understand why the vast majority of the community is upset with their proposal.
No, we aren’t necessarily upset because of the Expertise system. We are upset because they are reducing our gear’s effectiveness based on our HWM. They never once stated that grinding HWM is the only way to increase strength in the game, nor did they ever state they would enforce it. If they had pushed this proposal a few months earlier, people would not have been so upset. They would have stopped wasting time crafting and instead grinding HWM.
I don’t want to take part of any grind. Didn’t care for the daily chest zergs, won’t care for them now. This is the I’m out-patch for me, unless I see some drastic changes.
You put yourself in this mess AGS so I’m not gonna give you the solution to your new problem, but I can supply some potential examples.
No specific order and not guaranteed to be great solutions by any means (personally I try to think about the effects of a change before actually adding it, not yolo it and see what happens like this entire game from release has been run…)
You could potentially…
Grandfather players in to this new expertise system (Imagine a company who has thrown hundreds of thousands of gold at their armorers and weaponsmiths to craft the best stuff available for the rest of the company; every member wearing that armor is done goofed. They’re gonna love this patch… Not saying grandfather in everyone who has items from TP etc; which is a bit of a problem; you’d have to put crafted-but-bought items into the ‘grandfather mix’ too)
Stop. Take a step back. Find an outside hire / temporary manager/overseer, with fresh eyes and actual freakin’ experience, then if it works out, replace whoever has been running the show so far. NO ONE LIKES THEM (not even your staff, shhh).
Your over-complicated (now, not then) algorithms have become your nemesis. It used to be simpler (still buggy and problematic, but not as much of a guessing game). It was I’d say… when the amateur-level tweaks (by interns?) came along. Armor values did what they were supposed to once upon a time (it’s true people); more armor was more mitigation. Not lying here. How did you come to the decision that you needed to change the entire system, instead of adjusting armor values?Stop. F#%king. Simple. Things. Up.And yes, Chad, it might not be simple for you, which means you shouldn’t be doing it here.
Getting tired of giving tips to devs who either don’t care, can’t listen, won’t listen and most importantly, is completely disconnected from the game themselves. They’re obviously not playing it like the rest of us… ignore this point.
… my intention was to add a few more decent points, to try and ‘aid’ your sense of ‘what the f do we do’, and perhaps inspire others that it can indeed be fixed, but… I realized I don’t care any more.
Come this stupid patch, in which they won’t have changed any of the many, many criticisms of (not just here), I for one will never trust this company with a single dime or time.
Also time to move away from AWS, which is more of a ‘vote with your wallet’ thing. No more free $1000 a month from me. Goodbye Amazon, hello Cloudflare.
Almost like people shouldn’t have been arguing for large nerfs against specific groups of players that destroys the way they play the game. The mage nerfs should have been a massive red flag for everyone, but we had downright dolts who were advocating for these type of garbage changes since launch.
This is so dumb. Funny story…I got a 566 Warhammer drop from Myrk yet my WM for WH is only 520. So now my current 566 will drop to 520 until my WM (ceiling) is raised to 566 then it will max back out to 566. Lol. Stop chasing your tails AGS. GG!
And new players are entitled to skip all the progress that we have worked for months? Because gear drops like candies and right now you can get full 590 gs at total 20k gold.
As a casual player, I don’t really have time to go into hwm area, because you need a bloody party to do so. I work 12 hours a day, I like to relax when I log in the game, not to spend the next 20 to 30 minutes looking for a party.
The summer 22 update we are increasing HW and gear Score to 650 and the following on from that the holiday 22\23 season expansion\content will be to 700.
So are you implying you have 590 + weapons and only 500 WM? Do you not see the issue with that for future content?
Your crafted gear isn’t going anywhere, there’s scaling anyway so its not like you become unviable in PvP, you just got something else to do to actually progress your character? Like what’s the problem?
I have already done a lot to progress my character (hundreds of hours of gathering and crafting). For it to be reset to 0 and having to do it all again except through gameplay that I dont enjoy (farming PVE) is just painful