1.2 Hidden changes

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Here you go. It got worse. Way worse.

Here’s the important bit.

Traditional watermark grind INCREASED TEN FOLD.
Casts award 3 expertise.
Casts cost 600g.

What this means is that the normal grind is nigh impossible. Not viable option for leveling expertise.
Casts are your primary means of leveling your expertise.
Casts will run you 219,600 gold to get your expertise up to 600.

Do you have 219,000 gold? If not, you are trapped, stuck, literally unable to progress.

Enjoy. Those gypsum packs are hitting the cash shop real soon I’d bet. Once the majority of players can literally not progress without swiping their credit card.

javelindata_hwmloot - HWM increase chance reduced “ChanceToExceed”: 0.029999999329447746 → 0.009999999776482582 “ChanceBump”: 0.0024999999441206455 → 0.0010000000474974513 “RollupChance”: 0.10000000149011612 → 0.009999999776482582

“these 600 gold for the casts go to the worst parasites of the game since its 600 gold tax.” ~Averel000

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I only care about the gold cost… Each expertise bump costs 600g in PTR?

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Congratulations! :partying_face:

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What is “Casts”?

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You gotta be kidding right?

Because if not, then every gold farmer in China just had a orgasm…

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Why the hell does it cost something? If they really wanted to shut down the RMT like many white knights mentioned, guess what… Whoever had these ideas and approved them should really get some help.

This will be the gold sellers paradise at this point, good job!

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Yeah, this is the critical info. Swapping to expertise, although disloyal and annoying I accept. But if the casts cost gold… Holy shit.

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yep been linking that reddit post too , if this goes throu and ppl still play this game - well i guess some ppl like to be spit on

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How else are you going to pay for developer salaries?

Its either subscriptions or cash shop/free 2 play, and subscriptions isn’t going to work as the game is in a bad state.

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I’m done. Already uninstalled. I’d rather watch broadcast TV reruns at this point than to continue to waste my time on this inept development team.

BASICALLY, IF YOU FAILED TO RUN MINDLESS ZERG FARMS IN MYRKGARD A MONTH AGO, THEN YOU ARE SCREWED! NEW PLAYERS ARE SCREWED! JEWELRY CRAFTERS ARE SCREWED!

SCREW YOU AGS!

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I’m pretty confident im going to get shadow banned soon as the dev catch on to this

So, lads, remember. These are stealth nerfs. People will not know that the WM grind has been increased 10x unless you tell them.

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Damn worse nerfs than I thought.

Watermark stuff

See the following graph. The simple version is this: The odds of increasing your watermark were reduced from 10% to 1%. Minimum GS increase is nerfed at higher watermarks (2 to 1). Odds of a 600 GS item dropping were reduced significantly, but odds of a 591+ is up on average. Overall, HWM progression is significantly nerfed.

(Thanks Fluff in the NWDB Discord for this)

Old:

HWM : ExceedMax : ChanceToExceed : ChanceBump

500 : +5 : 3% : +0.25%

510 : +5 : 2% : +0.225%

525 : +4 : 1.75% : +0.1875%

550 : +3 : 1.5% : +0.125%

575 : +2 : 1% : +0.06%

590 : +10 : 1% : +0.025%

RollupChance: 10% on all

New:

500 : +5 : 1% : +0.1%

520 : +4 : 1% : +0.1%

545 : +3 : 1% : +0.1%

575 : +2 : 1% : +0.1%

585 : +1 : 1% : +0.1%

590 : +10 : 1% : +0.1%

RollupChance: 1% on all

Note there is a bunch of other stuff that also modifies this. It remains to be seen how bad the nerf is, but it will be significant. For example, HWMMult (a multiplier for raising HWM) was reduced from 30 on elite chests down to 15. For elite mobs, it was reduced from 2 to 1.5. For named mobs, it was reduced from 15 to 4. These HWMMult changes are on top of the drop chance being reduced from 10% to 1%, so there are multiple areas of nerfs.

Gypsum (edit with testing in NWDB discord)

An OPR cast gave +3 expertise. It is unclear if this is always +3 or if it follows the rules of regular HWM increases (i.e. up to +5 until level 520, then +4 until 545, etc.). Crafting an orb has a tax of 100g. Crafting a cast has a tax of 500g.

The gypsum, combined with the HWM changes, are the opposite of what the dev diary said. The dev diary stated:

But we have increased up the amount your Expertise increases with each bump to make Gypsum Casts and the random bumps feel more valuable.

However, this datamined info shows the opposite: The potential gear score increase is reduced on each step. There is even a new step at 585 where you can only go up +1, rather than the current +2.

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Looking forward to people attempting to make money to buy the casts.

OPR? ok on a high pop server… ~300coin every half hour+queue
Selling GEAR? HAHAHAHA no. Anyone who would buy it would be getting a side-grade or can’t use it at its GS… and not willing to pay much for it.
Selling materials? Likely, the crafters who are going to be continuing don’t need your materials.

Hope you like Cash Shops… welcome to your $40 Phone game.

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I understand.
Nothing else to say. They made their choice. The players just need to make theirs

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Nah it wont , what is the point to sell coins in game that will have 10 k online on peak times daily . 1k gold sellers advertising to 9 k bots camping every orichalcum vein .

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Correct me if I’m wrong, but can’t you only do 1 cast per day? That would mean it would take a little over a month per slot to wm everything.

3 jewel slots.
5 armor
2 weap (3 if s&b)

So a year timegate to 600?

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Yup!

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one more nerf for the fire staff, more grind, grind and grind, they don’t want people to play with mages, this game is not for me, uninstalling too, I reached the limit.

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Can u please edit your post and add that these 600 gold for the casts go to the worst parasites of the game since its 600 gold tax?

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