24 hour, 1 week bans not enough

you are the gopher you posted on the forum so support your statement

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He isn’t a gopher he is a troll

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The people in question are streamers, and they streamed weeks of exploiting/bragging and finally caught a ban on stream…one for 24 hours and one for a week. Neither cared and just encouraged cheating. So, the OP isn’t wrong…even if he didnt feel like digging up the info.

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Exactly I’m not here to advertise streamers.

Multiple exploits, encouraging exploits (as long as its off stream), immediately trying to circumvent ban. Says this is how all games like this are. Catches a 24 hour ban minus down time. So essentially not a deterrent AT ALL.

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All I know is several players evaded the ban. Even playing outpost rush moments ago I saw 5 players from the same company running void armor. The chances of that happening right now is very slim if at all possible.

This post goes into more detail about how the “smart” dupers essentially evaded bans entirely. To be realistic I don’t know how AGS would go about catching them all.

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@Vard

Sure, here you go:

You can stop the white knighting now.

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Theyre really not.
Fuck it, next time I’m all in. I’m usually a step behind on these kinds of things but I’m gonna be on top of it next time. To hell with integrity.

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agreed…if the punishment is 24 hour bans for weeks of public cheating…why should we gimp ourselves by playing fair.

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Yup. The smart ones did it on throw away accounts. They are also very good at sending the items all over and making it look like their mains just bought an item with no idea was duped (which obviously they know) and evaded the bans.

I have read in many other places about people getting perma bans. So maybe the temp bans are for a lesser offense or “streamer privilege”?

Those shorter ones are for exploiting bosses and node respawn timers. Effectively duping with a little more effort, yet 24 hour ban. LOL

New world, you are not the first game going to be destroyed by poor policy of punishing bug exploiters.

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APB comes to mind instantly. These two games have so much in common in terms of mistakes. Bad Engine with client side authority on alot of stuff (I don’t care what ags says about their Engine) never did any real punishment to players. Etc.

Wearing Void armor is nowhere close to be a proof of an exploit.

I mean, I myself only gathered a couple ten thousands of orichalcum (that’s very small amount compare to some other who litterally camp Orichalcum vein 10h/day since weeks) and get 4 void ore.

I won’t craft the armor because I cba crafting this shit for now, considering the perk will be fixed and useless in PvE in a couple of weeks, but I could wear a full void armor set by now if I wanted to.

This fucking shit right here is proof positive that AGS gives exactly zero fucks about the integrity of their game. This is mindbogglingly stupid. They are so goddamn terrified of losing players, that they let the fucking lowlifes off the hook while being totally clueless about the fact that for every one of these fuckers running around, they are losing 100 honest players.

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I don’t believe this for a second.

The average ratio for someone with full mining luck and trophies in three houses is 10k ore per 1 void ore, which matches my experience almost perfectly during the last month.

You are the only person I have seen make this claim, that tells me all I need to know.

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Well I have 4 void ore and I confirm you that I did not farm more than 20k Orichalcum ore. I’m even probably closer to 15k than 20k.

Also there is some suspicions that mining luck suffer some issue since recent patches, and I mined my ore multiple weeks ago (before they fix the big/little vein bug)

Edit : yeah ok that’s my bad. After reading myself again I miss-wrote. I didn’t gather “a couple of thousands” I gathered “a couple of ten thousands” sorry.

Pretty sure there’s a general idea behind punishments…

  • Duping gold or items which can permanently hurt the server and game —> PERMA BAN
  • Laundering duped gold or items which can permanently hurt the server and game —> PERMA BAN
  • Abusing glitches and exploits to gain a short term advantage that doesn’t permanently hurt the server —> Fix the glitch/bug; No punishment
  • Using armor and weapons that are clearly bugged in some way stream or not —> No punishment, this must be fixed.
  • Streaming and advertising glitches and exploits via macros/automation to gain a short term advantage that hurts the server and other servers in the short term —> 24 hour to 1 week ban that escalates with further violations
  • Streaming gold dupe or item dupe or trading or laundering duped gold or items which can permanently hurt the server and game —> PERMA BAN no investigation needed

So what you are looking is the opposite of streamer privilege, its streamer responsibility. If they didn’t stream it, they wouldn’t be punished unless they were reported and investigated. They have a responsibility to not advertise and stream cheating exploits. It’s pretty obvious and even the streamer knows they messed up.

For example, if the streamer did not dupe anything but some fan duped a bunch of items and give the streamer full endgame sets/gold/items they could definitely get banned…as they should.

TLDR - There are different tiers of punishments. The punishments for streamers are actually higher than non-streamers. The exploit they were punished for was not one that people who got banned were doing (i.e. gold/item dupe, laundering duped items)

It’s not a short term advantage. You do realize how hard orbs are to make? These people have months and months of extra dungeon gear. It’s just as game breaking to any competitive player. I realize AGS does not care about that demographic though.