Anyone asked the question why they implemented 72 hour chat ban ?
When did they do that? If that’s in the game, it probably has to do with the super common complaint of people getting unrightful bans from mass reports cause white knights and salty people don’t know how to use Block and Mute buttons
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it’s in one of the dev posts from a while back. It’s to combat bots and coin spam. This all at the expense of new players being unable to talk to the server and find groups for content. You can use /area chat but that’s it.
So the bots just create a bunch of lvl 1 characters, wait until they’re 72 hours old and start the gold spam in chat. You report them, nothing happens. They keep spamming.
There is only ONE way to stop it and that’s have in game GMs / Moderators but then that leads to MORE bans because the moderators will just abuse their power and start picking off players that say things they don’t like, understand or agree with.
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Well, that’s a bit of a stretch, I think. GM’s that abuse their position end up not being GM’s. If there’s a GM out there just capriciously exercising their authority, Amazon will end up with a lot of appeals that result in bans being reversed. Nobody wants that nonsense - both from the sheer work it generates as well as the negative publicity.
But I do agree with the basic assumption that ‘in game GM’s’ will result in more penalties being issued. Right now people get away with saying any crazy thing they like in chat simply because if no one reports them nothing will happen. GM’s in game would catch all that.
Well my point was that it’s a catch 22 when dealing with these types of company’s.
You have to sacrifice your ability to speak freely and say what you want when you want for any reason in order to get rid of the bots.
Segregated servers or “explicit servers” would be amazing. Adults only. Use the block feature and move on with you life. Meanwhile the entire server is bot free and everyone can farm and quest without competing for the mobs.
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I guess we’ll just have to disagree here. I don’t see any linkage between the moderation of chat and getting rid of bots, except for the point that I agree having some kind of time or level gateway is a good idea to make it harder for bots to spam the chat. I don’t think allowing ‘adult’ chat has anything whatsoever to do with the bot problem, and I don’t think having an ‘adult’ server would lead in any way to that server being ‘bot free’, because neither the botters themselves nor Amazon’s response to those botters has anything to do with ‘adult’ chat.
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so yeah I left out a couple things in my post and it doesn’t make sense. There were also assumptions I made that I didn’t type out.
having an adult server that has it’s own moderators would be great in the way that we would be able to immediately ban bots. Unfortunately that would also open up the door to abuse and regular, paying, players would get banned if they typed in chat how much they love Florida, or hate wearing masks, they would get banned by the moderators, drunk on stupidity too. You get where I’m going.
The chat restrictions for new players are frustrating but they keep the bots away for a little while. Despite the fact that they have an entire army of level 1 bots READY TO GO RIGHT NOW… someone posted he searched for “AK47” and it showed “AK47 1-20” or something like that just sitting and waiting to be called up.
If anyone cared to solve the bot problem, it would be solved. Personally, I think it’s population numbers and it’s SIGNIFICANTLY higher than they want to admit and banning them would drop the servers back down to sub 1K players. Some servers back down even worse.
Bots are not going anywhere.
I do understand what you are saying; it’s just that I don’t agree with some of your basic assumptions.
For example, I don’t agree that having moderators would lead to the immediate ban of all bots, because I suspect that amazon is identifying and tracking those bots in order to uncover more of the activities of the entire process. Unless you have enough moderators to simultaneously handle all reported issues as well as independently go around searching for bots…which likely they can’t afford, given that there are no ongoing subscription fees. I also don’t accept the premise that the fact the bot problem has not been ‘solved’ means ‘no one cares to solve the problem’. Every MMORPG ever has been plagued by bots, and there will always BE bots as long as there is an economic motivation for people to do so. Companies can do ‘more’ or ‘less’ to fight bots, true; but doing ‘more’ will almost always also mean ‘costs more money’; and if there isn’t a revenue stream large enough to support the most effective measures, then lesser measures will have to suffice.
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