AGS’s proposal for Watermark System will kill the game

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I wrote a thread a month ago supporting AGS devs for working hard to fix bugs, but I cannot support this proposal in any reasonable way. ASG, your proposal WILL KILL your game. Here’s why:

  1. You stated that you want your game’s economy to be entirely player driven. That includes buying and selling gear or materials for crafting. But what you have proposed goes directly against your vision of the game. Buying and selling gear is useless because it would just drop down to your current watermark level. Why would I buy a 600 GS weapon when I can’t even use it at its GS level? Crafters who focused all their time and money on leveling their professions to sell crafted weapons will not only have wasted them for nothing, but would no longer be able to benefit from selling crafted gear. Who’s going to buy it when it automatically gets de-leveled?

  2. The game becomes even grindier. Look, the current system sucks. But you know what? At least I can BUY STUFF SO I DON’T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS. I can actually go do the things that I like doing, like PvP for example, or make money through selling materials and buying the pieces that I want. I am willing to spend gold that I earn by just playing the game, which HELPS THE MARKET. What you have just proposed basically says “Hey we know you don’t like to grind, so what we’re gonna do is make the process a bit more guaranteed, but we’ll limit how much you can grind per day and force you to grind if you want to progress in the game”.

  3. Your proposal undermines people’s time. Look, not everybody wants to spend hours doing the things they don’t like. What your proposal will do is force people to participate in game modes they don’t like just so they can progress their character. PvP is the only thing I enjoy in this game. If I loved crafting and PvEing, I wouldn’t be playing this game. But if your proposal goes live, then I’m literally being forced to do things I don’t like doing just so I can compete in PvP. Do you understand how shitty this proposal is? I would drop the game instantly because why would I spend 3 hours of my free time to do something I don’t enjoy just so I could “in the long run” enjoy the content I have been enjoying? There is no long run AGS. People will have already left your game.

I sincerely hope you reconsider your proposal if you truly care about your playerbase’s needs.

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It’s World of Warcraft all over again.
What’s going on over at Amazon, did you hire former Blizzard staff?

Players: We don’t want overly grindy RNG time gated systems :angry:

Devs: We hear you and have replaced the current system with another grindy RNG time gated system. :grin:

Players: Time to unsub. :roll_eyes:

Devs: Why is everyone quitting??? :open_mouth:

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As a person in a tiny company with people who would prefer to not spend hours grinding. I craft or filter gear to them that I get… this whole change is generally upsetting.

Few of them have an hour or two to log in and game, constantly grinding the same things is going to make them not come back.

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I too will personally quit, and 4 of my friends will too. One of them just spent 70k gold to level up their crafting so he could craft a 600 GS GreatAxe. His watermark for the GA isn’t very high. But basically if this change goes through he’s waste time and gold for nothing.

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