i’ve came back to NW because of the Fresh Start servers. Played a shitton of hours again and actually enjoyed the game this time. It was nice to see a clean server where i could be sure nothing was duped and exploited and people are just as good as they could be due to legal gameplay.
You gave us your word, that you WONT merge new and old servers. And now you shit on the players who returned and are still here just because you achieved your goal for the end of the year to aquire X new players? Just wanted to tell: If you merge FRESH into OLD (exploited, duped, broken market) servers, that it will be. Players wont trust a word you say anymore (well, you’ve already broke up with your playerbase by your decision so who gives a damn thing anymore right?)
Trust me, players will leave as fast as they’ve come once they notice that they’ve been merged into a 10 months old word where everyone has everything and is broken af. Anyway.
I’ve tried to give NW another chance. And i’m leaving a game i like heartbroken because of a company who just cannot stop lying to their playerbase and ALWAYS makes the worst decisions possible (mages are in a great shape haha).
None of official announcements I’ve seen so far indicate that Fresh Start Worlds are being merged into legacy worlds, so unless I missed something (wouldn’t be the first time), that’s not an issue (yet, anyway) and AGS didn’t lie about it.
As for Return to Aeternum Worlds, their status and potential fates seem somewhat more ambiguous, but again, unless I missed something, AGS did not promise that RTA worlds would not be merged into legacy.
At least, that’s how it looks from here. If I’m wrong, please provide links to primary sources so I can correct any misunderstandings I may have about all this.
UPDATE: “Moving forward, they will be treated the same as Fresh Start Worlds.”
I didn’t see this in the links above, but this thread in the Official News forum provides the smoking gun:
That isnt what was said at all.
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They promised to never merge Fresh Start servers with Legacy servers. RTA (return to aternum) servers are not Fresh start servers. They are the event servers that were invitation only and functioned under entirely different rules than Fresh Start servers were subjected to.
People asked for Fresh Start, you got them, however no one stayed around so…
I do agree they don’t seem to have a “game plan” for New World or if they did it has been thrown out, which may be a good thing considering the complete Grief/Grind fest of a mess it was at launch.
Whilst some suggestions from the fanbase can be good and welcomed, they seem to be over delivering on that aspect.
AGS don’t listen to every suggestion. Fresh start should have not been introduced until content was a lot more fleshed out and the broken resource systems and such were fixed. Questing 1-60 fixed at the very least, not just 1-25
If there is no large, payed expansion announced within the next 2-4 months, then I to will stop playing for good, which is a shame as I think NW could be a stonking MMO.
Maintanence Mode + isn’t good enough AGS stringing people along while you harvest data and know how for building your new Sci FI MMO.
Your example specifically says that RTA servers are not Fresh Start servers (notice how its crossed out)?
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Even if that changes at some point, it still proves that RTA servers were not considered Fresh Start servers at their conception, which is when the promise to never combine Fresh Start servers with Legacy servers was made.
AGS said, in writing, that moving forward, RTA servers would be treated the same as Fresh Start Worlds.
Based on official statements made two weeks ago, it would be patently unreasonable to assert that players were wrong to expect that moving forward, RTA servers would be treated the same as Fresh Start Worlds.
Putting a line through those statements later does not change the fact that they were made, and players should NEVER be punished for taking AGS at their word.
Two weeks ago, long after the damage was done. RTA servers are not the same as Fresh Start servers. Opening them up to allow the public to finally have access to them doesnt make them Fresh Start, nor does it erase all of the code of conduct violations that were allowed to happen there .
Granted, “clean” Fresh Start Worlds and Return to Aeternum Worlds are definitely not the same given the differences in how they were populated, and I personally don’t think they should be intermingled in any fashion because of that. However, that also doesn’t justify merging RTA servers into legacy servers either.
Having claimed two weeks ago that they would be treated the same as Fresh Start Worlds, it’s up to AGS to either do that by combining them in the manner of Fresh Start Worlds, if not with them, or otherwise somehow make things right with the players they seem to have misled.
How they might do that, I don’t know, but I can say with confidence that the absolute worst option would be pissing off all the players they invited to RTA servers and earning the distrust of far more players than that, not to mention the abhorrent publicity in the wider gaming world that would come with such a move.
We can opine and dispute the details, but only AGS can fix this.
Popcorn, anyone?
Full Disclosure: I don’t have characters on either Fresh Start Worlds or Return to Aeternum Worlds. I think how AGS handles this, however, is important to all players, regardless of where their characters may be.
First line in the first paragraph after the greeting: “Watch your favorite Twitch streamers forge a new legacy into their very own fresh start worlds in Return to Aeternum.”
This does not involves me at all, but you guys realize that below certain threshold, servers implode right? Not sure how the pop levels are on RTA servers but if AGS is announcing this shitshow I assume the hype faded already?
Take it from someone that has been on 7 servers and 2 forced merges.
Server Collapse Syndrome (“SCS” in finer academic journals) is the underlying root of the whole problem. Without it, the endless drama over server merges would subside substantially as the need for merges subsides.
Designing systems to fail below critical population thresholds in a game where populations routinely fall below such thresholds is not exactly a pathway to resounding success.
Fixing the underlying problem is not a trivial task, but as long as it remains unresolved, the many systemic consequences will continue to corrode the New World experience, alienate players, squander precious staff resources and cripple the game’s potential for success.
Radical surgery is never pretty, but it’s prettier than dying.
But they are dead, they will merge FSS servers with legacies anyway… sooner or later. Moreover you think it’s a roll a dice ? Computer analyze tons of datas and choose which Y server will be the best for X server to merge it including datas about population, economy, prices, gold, inflation, everything, doubt if those choices are being made by human … human can’t analyze everything …
