April 1, 2024
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Or a a 2 group can be queued with a 3 group. It isn’t as big of a difference as an all solo queue vs a 3 stack. So imo they should just have a solo queue OR non solo queue where solo people can queue in too but it would mostly be used for the 2 or 3 stacks who queue.
You solo Q
OR
You Q in group of 3
Thats it
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If u are really so bad that u cant find a friend to queue in Arena … this says a lot about endless reasons of complaining.
Its ONLINE GAME! We are supposed to play with friends, not to forbid every type of team queueing because some players are so bad that nobody want to team-up with them.
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Yeah I’ve said this repeatedly and this community is so vocal about their cheeses that it was bashed into oblivion. Gl
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What does dueling have to do with anything, just because you’re betting Monopoly money.
Either way, nobody plays arenas, so add a solo queue. I don’t see why not. You’re still gonna be sitting in queue for 30 minutes.
Maybe on your server. On valhalla arenas go 24/7 while OPR only runs maybe 20 hours out of the day.
Arena is also the best way to tell if someone is good at PVP. Anyoen thinking that meters in OPR or Wars are the way to identify this are generally pretty bad.
I know its just day 1, but 9 out of our top 10 ranked people for almost all of the categories on Valhalla arenas queued together as premades.
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On dry tree alot of the guys at the top queued as duos.
Duos Vs singles shouldnt be a thing.
These guys would be top even if they were single queue, they are very good players. But this is a method to get far more favourable matchmaking.
Of course they will utilise it.
Why does that change with 3v3? Two bruisers and a healer. 3 bruisers. 3 healers.
2v2 where possible between premades would be fine. I’m not even sure why they stopped at 3v3 to be honest. Why not up to 5v5?
I like to queue with a friend sometimes. Being able to do that and get paired against another 2 would be pretty cool. I’d prefer that a lot more than the current scenario.
If you are so confident that solo players are bad and they are the minority, why are you against separating solo/group Q ?
Quote where I said solo players are bad?
I’ve only said its an online game and in online games we are supposed to be able to play with our friends. Now if u play any online game for weeks/months and still cant find any friend to play with, this should rise enough questions about urself.
Arena is not that active on the most servers.
What gives u more rights to play arena in solo than the duo groups?
Why are ur rights more important than others?
Selfishness or incompetence?
I’m very sure even if queue will be exclusive only solo there will be another endless threads of complain from the same players category. Reasons like weapons are to OP, Healers are healing, Tanks are tanking, DPS are doing DPS and more totally valid and realistic complains.
Pick your adventure:
a) Solo Queue
b) Queue with 1 Friend
c) Queue with 2 Friends
On the following step, we will study 2 possible outcome (Victory / Defeat) and the reaction of OP.
Arena Result: LOSE
a) Screw that, why am I facing premade
b) The 3rd dude was a 600 beginner
c) Man they had a healer, pissing me off
Arena Result: WIN
a) I carried the shiiiit out of this Arena
b) We carried that beginner man, we so good
c) We gapped you pre-made shiiiiit
Spoken like a 3v3 main. This is a bad take, like quite bad.
Certain builds excel at different activities. Things that are very strong in 3s don’t get slotted in wars and are mid in OPR.
3v3 tells you who is good at 3v3s that is all. They may be terrible at understanding how to fight with tons of bodies and positioning (also when to take a fight) which you do on such a small scale in 3s.
I completely disagree with your take.
An amazing 3v3 player will generally speaking still perform exceptionally well in Wars/OPR because they have firm understanding of class/weapon mechanics as well as dodge utilization.
Someone that can be seen as amazing in wars with clump fighting can be awful in smaller scale pvp.
Wars are not nearly as difficult to be efficient in, and everyone ive ran into that points towards how well their company is in regards to them being a pvper, has generally been C tier or below average. The highest skillcap players in the game will be combat tested in arenas when ranked comes out. Not in wars / opr.
people who want to queue as a premade should fight other premades only.
if you want to queue as a premade but fight 3 totally unorganised randoms 90% of the time then you clearly arnt doing it for a competitive game but just to gank non organised players for easy games to increase your epeen.
you can play with your friends against other people playing with their friends if its so easy for people to find ‘friends’ then it should not be a problem having seperate queues should it.
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For all we know, they might be trying to match 3s premade versus 3s premade first, that is a fair ask. If none available THEN go towards any 3.
Idk about your server, but none of the better PvPers play 3s on any of the servers I’m on. Those players who grind 3s a majority of the time typically are awful at war and aren’t in any of the competitive companies.
Maybe your servers PvPers really grind 3s, but for the 5 I play on, this is not the case. And they typically perform really poorly in wars when they got slotted
I just find that extremely hard to believe. Or maybe you aren’t fully aware. Im not saying the best players ONLY do arena. I’m saying that without a doubt, the best arena players will be better players than the top OPR or WAR players. It is just a fundamental measurement of skill in the game compared to the madness of large scale pvp.
It is why in every other competitive MMO, a system like ranked 3s is used to determine who the top performers are, not Battlegrounds or “OPR”.
Ya no I get what you’re saying. I had misunderstood your meaning before.
Agreed if there was a ranked mode you’d see the better players rise up the boards and play it more.
War is just kind of a unique animal you know? Obviously the technically ability you’re able to shows in 3s is transferable, but wars have the additional element of more group play, coms, spacial understand and just having so much more happening at once.
While the best players will excel at both, it’s not everyone who’s good at 3s who can excel at wars if that makes sense? I was more taking it as the people who are always running 3s, but I now understand you meant that the activity in itself (if the best players all played) would show the best PvPers, which I think a ranked ladder would ultimately show.