Amazon explanation about blunderbuss!

the changes that ar ecoming mostly have no effect. the only one change i dont like is 300 str grit removal and ref move cooldown 0.2 sec. muskets will still use aim bots and macro. GS still swinging heavys. and hatchet will still have free jailbreack card.

Sure it was nice to have build in grit and still doing tons of dmg. Now you have to pick one.

And ref move was broken as hell. As mele in clumps you can hit like 5 dudes with 1 auto attack. Range weapons cand do it. And even with weapons like hatchet you can do like 3 light attacks per second. range cant do it. So it was nerfed and now mele have to use refresging perks on armor if they want more refresing - like every other build since day 1.

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yes i dont say it bad i just dont like it

Cause i think bruisers was prety balanced i didnt expect they will be nerfed, but you are right

Possibly hot take, but only bad players die to BB combos. 99% of people playing Blunderbuss never even land their shots in a way that maximizes damage.

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yes, not so simple but true

Rephrase that to ā€œplayers that make mistakes or are inexperiencedā€ and I’d agree.

Just splitting everyone into ā€œbadā€ or ā€œeveryone elseā€ buckets over simplifies this. I make mistakes in fights that sometimes lead to me getting done in by another player’s combo. I might then duel them again and obliterate them.

I suppose what you’re saying is bad players lose like this and then give up, opting to conclude that the combo is OP rather than practice against it to learn how to beat it.

And whilst I do agree with that, I don’t think that’s always the same as saying ā€œit’s balanced because you can learn to get betterā€. Some builds aren’t well balanced. BB/WH has been nerfed and I don’t disagree with that change at all, despite my usage of it. So there’s nuance to this discussion.

The problem is that there is a big element of what you say. I was one of those people until I decided to focus on PVP with my FSS character and settled on BB as my weapon of choice. Took me a long time to get used to it and I’m still learning all the time.

Do I feel strong with it? Yes. I should do, though… I’ve got strong gear and I’ve been practicing with the weapon for months now. Am I a one shot wonder king? Not even close. When I do pull it off and obliterate an opponent I have to conclude that they’re just not well geared enough to withstand the combo (which is, I state again, getting a nerf).

So there’s a big disparity between what I’m seeing and what the old me saw. Am I a better player than the old me? Well, yes 100%. But the main point is that the old me was low con light and didn’t know anything about the BB because I’d never tried it. It does make a difference and if players aren’t taking that into consideration when they claim it’s op then I agree that definitely biases their opinions.

If you don’t think BB has the highest burst damage in PvP idk what to tell you. It’s absolutely braindead if you can hit your auto attacks AND do a full burst combo of 4 inputs, it’s the strongest weapon in the game at close/midrange

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I think it is up there with the highest burst damage. If you land everything it can do at the correct range then it is very high burst.

What damage it actually deals is hugely dependent on so many ā€œifsā€ though. Successfully landing shock wave on a light target is a good way to remove the need to ask many of those ā€œifsā€.

If a target maintains a 5m gap or is so in my face that I have to constantly track them and manage through staggers so I can actually reload when my initial attack doesn’t go well then the ā€œifsā€ stack up pretty rapidly.

Shrapnel is not strong at any range outside of the radius of the capstone grenade aoe damage. I can still do good damage outside of that range by aiming and I do spec into the perk that gives me more damage at 20m but if you dare suggest that be taken away then I question your motives.

Where I get a lot of my damage if it’s not from shrapnel (and I stress, it is usually not if I’m fighting anyone who knows how to play against BB) is burn and anti heal and that’s way more important to me in small scale pvp than being able to maybe lock one guy and maybe kill them in one hit.

Take the squishy targets and put them in front of any well geared WH with any other big follow up hit and they’ll die just as easily.

I do sometimes pull off a good flick shot with the shrapnel combo on a moving target who gets into its ideal range and that’ll sometimes be enough to turn the fight way into my favour. But so what? If a bow hits me in the head with a heavy and follows it up with any high damage skill then it’ll do the same for them. All most GS players need to do is chain all their big hits together and at least two of them will hit me. A sns can stun lock me and ignore 70% of my damage just by blocking. Up until now, if I’m facing a similarly skilled musket I may as well not apply. Some hatchet players who avoid my cc just left click me as I’m trying to gain space to reload and they don’t care I’ve triggered my 50% damage reduction perk.

This combo doesn’t make me a good player. It’s just one tool I can potentially use and unless you’ve actually tried it yourself I don’t think you can really understand how hard it can be to pull off consistently.

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Does not work on knock downs

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Mate its so sad that you waste your time for people who even dont want to try to understand, they just want to complain

see next bbs and mage monkey patch. monkey

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Please, nerf this weapon asap! Nerf ā€œLast chanceā€, 30% forti will be enough and 1 min cd too. Also change delay between animations, because of now delay = o. And ofc nerf azoth shrapnel blast. You can just delete double shot (left mouse click + shrapnel in 0.2 sec).

@Shadow_Fox @Luxendra @Kay @Fenne @Fennec @Aenwyn
what do y think about bbs nerf??? ask the question!

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Don’t post about weapons that you idnt even bther to play for at least 5minutes :clown_face:

you can go 200 con but you need an ench keenly emp bb. you just get deleted with opal, no need to slot firegem on bb.

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What’s the farthest you can hit all 6 pellets from? You only hit 2 in that image. Thank you in advance!

thats just me showing a poc
you can hit all. I am just being weird with the aim at 14m so i grabbed 1 with 5 for you.

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Cheers

Ye, famous one shot combo against afk 150 con light 0 elem resist
image
Which gives him ± 8k damage
LOL
ONE SHOT

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