Anyone else tired of this ranged Meta?

[Gothics]

Mine as well go play a FPS game. AGS never listens. If anyone from AGS sees this remove arboreal is busted

[itmekal]

I don’t mind it too much the only things that bug me are 1. the obvious aimbotters (and no I don’t mean the players that are just good lets not fool ourselves) and 2. OPR game mode is just trash and promotes sitting back and doing damage with ranged making it awful if you get stuck with all the ranged.

[Nagash]

i used to like opr, until i took a bunch of arrows to the knee.

[Moose_Knucks]

Idk my server seems filled with a ton of bruisers, healers, and assassin dex builds.

[SkyKnight]

Problem is the aimbot issue, range can be fun but having skills directed towards aiming in the head is just wrong,

they need to pinpoint like for slow you will need to hit the legs, for bleeding you will need to hit the stomach.

This will counter the aimbot and make the ones who shoot and aim well perform even better.

[Julezer]

A company on my server massreports muskets in OPR and now they don’t queue with that weapon anymore. They had no option but to take it into their own hands. I’m glad they do it.

[Bankai90000]

In this ranged meta you can’t play anything else than assassin meele. Cuz if you’ve 200 or 300con you will still blasted in 3sec on the field despite wearin med lol

[Valedon]

Bows and muskets aren’t a problem at all.

Map design and scoring system are the problem.

This is what promotes the musketpr and bow pr.

On dry tree we don’t get it that much, still mainly bows.

Put more cover and obstacles in opr and lower weight of dmg/kills in scoring and increase weight of contesting points.

Job done.

No one gonna be stat-padding and doing passive dmg or sniping kills if they end up at the bottom of the scoreboard and don’t reach the 3k points for max rewards.

^ this is all that needs to happen.

[BRADLEY]

Cries in Mage

[JamyFowl]

great that effects opr, what about open world, 3v3s, duels?

[andrew.miesem]

I still think the core problem is that PvP/PvE use the same weapon tunings, and when you’re talking about two fundamentally different systems, neither one is going to be particularly good. I proposed one solution, and I’m seriously hoping AGS does something like this so that they can tune PvP and PvE independently of one another.

@andrew.miesem

I believe a more robust solution is possible, and so I propose what I’m going to refer to as Gear Mode Switching as a better long-term idea.

The way this would work is, at a fundamental level, quite simple:

• All gear has a PvE and a PvP mode
• These modes are controlled by player’s PvP flag, and change automatically when that state changes
• PvP-only weapon/equipment perks could optionally be swapped with an equivalent PvE-only perk when this mode is switched
• Some gems and craft mods would also have two modes. For instance, Carnelian gems are useless in PvP, so why not give them another threat-related PvP effect, like a slightly-faster point capture (OPR or War) rate that comes with an associated aura, causing that player to be essentially more threatening for their opponents?

After this base system is put in place, adjustments to PvP behaviors and PvE behaviors could be made independently of one another without side effects that disrupt the other mode. Additionally, using this split system, you could then work on introducing this split mechanic to other game aspects as needed, meaning that AI enemies or things in the environment might react differently as well, further tuning the entire world experience to the way that a given player chooses to play.

[Julezer]

Sick of it. We transferred to a new server and now there’s the same 5man premade 625 musket squad every night ruining the fun for everyone.