Are mages really as weak as everybody says?

couldn’t have said it better myself. this game has a heavy emphasis on “screw the mage” … I mean down to even our 40+ int food requiring a legendary fish. A LEGENDARY fish. only available from 1 low level zone in the game.

… 40 con food? rabbits- located in every nook in cranny in the entire world. o.o

Gear- we started with voidbent heavy… No light was available because “bugs”…and when we finally got the ability to craft light it came with strength. There is no magic stated voidbent.

This trend continues into named world drops, and it just gets ridicules the more you look at things.

Look at how mage weapons stats and base multipliers are…
The entire game from the foundation of launch has been engineered against the mage weapons.

Even now, in a bugged and exploited artificial mage meta* the best weapon you can pair with one of our weapons is a Great Axe. x.x

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perfect on point

going with 402 int, 50dex, 50kon in wars i deal 800-900k in them ye, but thats due to aoes and crowding on points… wuhu… Pillar of Fire nearly hits, because it is so clunky to position ( arrow of rain for example feels 10x better )

fireball does go trough enemies / the enviroment quite often, the main source of dmg are my heavy attacks, which are hard to hit aswell, since u can simply block ( takes 9 heavys to delete a tanks stamina bar btw… ) or just dodge them…

btw my pillar does around 700-1.3k on a heavy tank ( having 14-15k hp… ) cant out damage the heals :rofl:

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Mages are Absolutely underpowered, Muskett is a joke! Nerf Plz. Unfortuantely, all magic sucks right now

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Lmao, 1 on 1. Because they get destroyed. If your not with the group and a large one good luck

The fire staff 1 hit, has always been a myth on this forum.
Mostly caused by lag/ dysnc .
A person lags, gets shot by aimbots, and the final killing blow is a fireball. then ZOMG fireball one shot me.
No bro, 3 musketeers from beyond your render distance , head shot you. and the final attack that “claimed your corpse” was a mage.

If your getting 2 shot by a fire staff, your getting 1 shot by a great axe.

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Many of the complaints are from people who are out of touch and just wanting to share misery.

Anyone actually playing knows that fire staff is capable of being insanely strong in wars if used strategically… And anyone in OPR knows that ice and void together are insta death of the user is skilled with their ice spike.

I.e… take the forums with a huge grain of salt and just enjoy the game if you enjoy playing.

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Yeah it does

You using fireball perk? 30% added damage? It hits 2-4k easily except for heavys with magic resist or medium with magic aversion and resistance to elementals

I don’t even know what are you talking about. FS is not a oneshot weapon and I’m not saying it is, but is pretty strong right now compared to the rest similar weapons

Nope

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Fireball only hits most pvp light armor builds for 2-2.1k max with emp fireball perk, otherwise it hits for 1700

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You obviously don’t play firestaff. It doesn’t even hit light armor above mid 2k. Maybe close to 3k if they have really low ele resist with emp fireball.

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Imagine calling people out of touch while at the same time saying fire staff is “insanely strong in wars”. You realize points and the scoreboard mean nothing right?

No one said IG/VG combo isn’t strong. VG is insanely strong, only thing IG has going for it is spike and the bug which is getting fixed.

As more time goes on less and less people are using FS in competitive wars as people are starting to realize how truly bad it is. It has less damage and burst than other weapons, paired with absolutely zero CC or utility.

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Scoreboard kills are a joke. If you drop ice storm right as people get downed you get the kills without providing any damage. Not saying this mage didn’t do well but the scoreboard on this game is a joke.

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Mage is so hated on this game it’s insane. GA/WH and healers rule this forum and in game discussion. Musket gets the same hate. Simple fact is every single light and heavy attack of every mage weapon is underperforming. You have to stack your cool downs in very specific orders to do any real damage and this is only applicable to VG/IG build which is most viable option for high damage output. FS is the absolute worst option for a mage right now. VG without the additional wep/armor perks is pretty underwhelming as well and the light and heavy attacks are also fairly weak. If you’re using VG sword right now you’re doing it wrong.

IG ice spike is only thing that is has going for it. Once that “bug” has been fixed the IG will join the FS in being a meme. I still use the FS/IG outside of war as it’s fun but honestly not sure why I don’t just switch to GA/WH for better damage and better CC abilities. Seems that is what everyone wants the meta to be. GA/WH with healers and a few bows. Lol

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You can’t be serious. Idk what server you play on but if you have mages still using FS for OPR and wars aside from just refusing to switch that is hilarious. The FS is hot garbage for PvP lol. It does nothing accept tickle. Also the ice spike is bugged. Once it’s fixed mages will be reduced to rooting people and at that point will be about as necessary as muskets/bow in war. GA/WH with healers will be all that is left to dominate the field.

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In both dev videos the only things they ever say about mages are negative. Not a single one of them uses the class other than vg. The first vid the weapon balance guy kept pointing out how ig is too strong and players don’t like fighting ig and it’s giving them too hard of a time. It looked like it killed him to say they were going to buff them. Every aspect of this game sucks as a mage. The drops, the food the abilities, the damage. Yes you can get high score board damage and even high kills. But we all know how that actually goes. At least ppl who play ig/fs do. I just want fs to be good and not laughable.

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Whatever, sir. Open your mind to new applications and make your FS crew work together with melee abilities. You’ll find there’s actually insane capability when you stop looking at singular player gameplay.

Lol have fun on your server. Glad FS still a thing there. Hopefully they buff the FS before mages on your server catch wind of actual meta. Also it’s a war. We’re all working together. Team FS vs team IG/VG and FS going to look really silly. Better get those burnouts ready.

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It’s irrelevant if you use it statistically to say “mages are top 1 in wars, therefore, they are OP”

Let’s suppose you hit an ice shower in a group of 20 players… Each tick would hit for around 200 dmg every 0.333 seconds, resulting in 600 DPS times 20 players, 12k damage per second.

Then a healer cast a holy ground, which will heal players for around 800 per second, the entire “12k per second” will be reduced to 0 effective damage, and plus players will be healed for an extra 200 every second.

The the effectiveness of the ice shower 12k dps in this case would be totally negated. Ofc it can stack other damage, but the overall rank doesn’t represent that mages are destroying “because they are in the top ranks at war”, they are just slowing people around…

Mages can’t do much in 1v1 due the lack of burst damage (except ice spike) and burning stacks not dealing that much of DOT to be a reliable choice to say “be aware with it, it will burn to death you if you take too much hits to it.”

They should make players carefull about burning, maybe giving +1 second extra duration to all burning stacks for each consecutive hit. That would be a good way to make people not laugh at fire staff burning tickles

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