Are mages really as weak as everybody says?

Nope

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Fireball only hits most pvp light armor builds for 2-2.1k max with emp fireball perk, otherwise it hits for 1700

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You obviously don’t play firestaff. It doesn’t even hit light armor above mid 2k. Maybe close to 3k if they have really low ele resist with emp fireball.

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Imagine calling people out of touch while at the same time saying fire staff is “insanely strong in wars”. You realize points and the scoreboard mean nothing right?

No one said IG/VG combo isn’t strong. VG is insanely strong, only thing IG has going for it is spike and the bug which is getting fixed.

As more time goes on less and less people are using FS in competitive wars as people are starting to realize how truly bad it is. It has less damage and burst than other weapons, paired with absolutely zero CC or utility.

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Scoreboard kills are a joke. If you drop ice storm right as people get downed you get the kills without providing any damage. Not saying this mage didn’t do well but the scoreboard on this game is a joke.

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Mage is so hated on this game it’s insane. GA/WH and healers rule this forum and in game discussion. Musket gets the same hate. Simple fact is every single light and heavy attack of every mage weapon is underperforming. You have to stack your cool downs in very specific orders to do any real damage and this is only applicable to VG/IG build which is most viable option for high damage output. FS is the absolute worst option for a mage right now. VG without the additional wep/armor perks is pretty underwhelming as well and the light and heavy attacks are also fairly weak. If you’re using VG sword right now you’re doing it wrong.

IG ice spike is only thing that is has going for it. Once that “bug” has been fixed the IG will join the FS in being a meme. I still use the FS/IG outside of war as it’s fun but honestly not sure why I don’t just switch to GA/WH for better damage and better CC abilities. Seems that is what everyone wants the meta to be. GA/WH with healers and a few bows. Lol

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You can’t be serious. Idk what server you play on but if you have mages still using FS for OPR and wars aside from just refusing to switch that is hilarious. The FS is hot garbage for PvP lol. It does nothing accept tickle. Also the ice spike is bugged. Once it’s fixed mages will be reduced to rooting people and at that point will be about as necessary as muskets/bow in war. GA/WH with healers will be all that is left to dominate the field.

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In both dev videos the only things they ever say about mages are negative. Not a single one of them uses the class other than vg. The first vid the weapon balance guy kept pointing out how ig is too strong and players don’t like fighting ig and it’s giving them too hard of a time. It looked like it killed him to say they were going to buff them. Every aspect of this game sucks as a mage. The drops, the food the abilities, the damage. Yes you can get high score board damage and even high kills. But we all know how that actually goes. At least ppl who play ig/fs do. I just want fs to be good and not laughable.

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Whatever, sir. Open your mind to new applications and make your FS crew work together with melee abilities. You’ll find there’s actually insane capability when you stop looking at singular player gameplay.

Lol have fun on your server. Glad FS still a thing there. Hopefully they buff the FS before mages on your server catch wind of actual meta. Also it’s a war. We’re all working together. Team FS vs team IG/VG and FS going to look really silly. Better get those burnouts ready.

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It’s irrelevant if you use it statistically to say “mages are top 1 in wars, therefore, they are OP”

Let’s suppose you hit an ice shower in a group of 20 players… Each tick would hit for around 200 dmg every 0.333 seconds, resulting in 600 DPS times 20 players, 12k damage per second.

Then a healer cast a holy ground, which will heal players for around 800 per second, the entire “12k per second” will be reduced to 0 effective damage, and plus players will be healed for an extra 200 every second.

The the effectiveness of the ice shower 12k dps in this case would be totally negated. Ofc it can stack other damage, but the overall rank doesn’t represent that mages are destroying “because they are in the top ranks at war”, they are just slowing people around…

Mages can’t do much in 1v1 due the lack of burst damage (except ice spike) and burning stacks not dealing that much of DOT to be a reliable choice to say “be aware with it, it will burn to death you if you take too much hits to it.”

They should make players carefull about burning, maybe giving +1 second extra duration to all burning stacks for each consecutive hit. That would be a good way to make people not laugh at fire staff burning tickles

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using the ice gauntlet and firestaff i have a hard time killing the level 35 gold mobs, only switching out the weapons to hatchet and great axe i can kill them. my light and heavy shots with the ice/fire hit for around 600 and the burn ticks are around 23. the great axe and hatchet i am hitting them for over 800. with only a 15 strength score and not the 272 int. mages are really only good with void gauntlet and/or in a group adding dps right now i am level 56 and have a hard time killing a level 48 normal mob.

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The best trolls in this thread are those who evidently never played an INT weapon, yet try to teach acutual Mages about how to play our own weapons.

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When you learn about IG damage buff with ice storm come back and say the same.

It’s better to see mediocre mages try to teach good mages why they suck with the class

New world is no world for Mages, we are useless if not using Void Gauntlet and even that is just better paired with other meta weapons, alone for its utility.

The devs choose to ignore this tremendous issue and therefore me and plenty other Mages either become meta slaves with Bow/Rapier or WH/GA and occasionally pack the VG as a side tool only for its buffs and root.

Us Mages were neglected by the devs, who themselves use meta builds and evidently don’t care about anything else being useless/unplayable.

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VG is not a mage, it is melee DPS. So yes, mages are weak. Fire Staff is garbage, LS can only heal and nothing else, and IG is only effective because of Ice Storm/Spike combo. Mages are rubbish in this game.

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Amen. That’s also why I finally quit this game recently. :joy: :wave: :triumph:

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Are you even playing the Game? Light FS/IG mage os the ranged dps meta right now, you need to be kiddimg about FS being trash. I rerolled from bow to mage and you can easily dominate every other class im 1v1, 20v20 and 50v50. Just don’t play melee with either FS or IG, get the spike out of the build and spam Pilar of fire once every 3 secs.

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