Why? If you’re not here to be constructive, you don’t need to reply at all lol
You’re just being rude
Ah yes a book, if only the people who read this post could learn to read too, good idea
“If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected .” ― Sun Tzu
Outpost Rush has many flaws from having strange 1 sided matches to its strange scoring system. But in terms of strategies, back capping is something that shouldn’t lose its effectiveness. A small group of 2 - 3 pve’ers will have a fort up n ready to go fairly quickly. Why on earth should the opposing team and vise versa allow the enemy to have a forward spawn? God no that things getting destroyed.
If the enemy is holding Sun, why should the team fight tooth and claw to take sun when sending someone or 2ish 3 people to cap their fort forcing the enemy team to either break away from Sun weakening their defense or ignoring the backcap, lose the spawn and get twisted as more allies must come from spawn to sun causing a flip.
Backcapping is a a strategy that currently is very effective. You don’t need AGS to come in and make it less effective. Players can do that on their own. Strategically, back cappers can’t breach if 2 people are manning the doors and 1 person is manning the defenses. 1 Lone back capper will never break the gate. 2 Back cappers will take awhile to break the gates. Eventually if they send 5, It’s good for you and bad. Good that that’s 5 less units on their team, bad that’s 4 more bodies hitting the door expending resource faster.
Strategy & Formation is so much more fun than cave man left click.
Nerf a valid strategy?
No
One thing i can get behind is removing the Baron mechanic of kill shot gets the “lockout”.
The fact you guys assume people liking largescale combat is equivalent to ‘caveman’ shows your lack of understanding of largescale combat despite preaching ‘art of war’ and pulling fancy quotes. To clarify, I want backcapping toned down. Toned down. Not deleted or gutted. I miss how OPR felt right after the sns assassins were nerfed, or before they were introduced. Those two time periods of OPR were perfect.
But in a recent patch they buffed point capping speed and door repair speed. I highly feel like those buffs were unnecessary. People could backcap and lock people out of forts just fine in the past.
I feel like they should make it so you actually have to be inside the little cave to deal damage to her. I saw a musket steal the kill from Sun the other day
Okay, well if you’re gonna start your opening with some stupid shit like that. Should I just assume you’re wanting this topic of yours to be an echo chamber and only those who agree with you may speak. And anyone who will defend this grievous act of strategy will be hung at the gallows. Large Scale Combat doesn’t mean rush rush rush. If that were the case there wouldn’t be strategy riddled in history. For one I’d interpret SonicKat posting that picture because everything you seem to be against are war strategies that mankind has fought with for hundreds of years.
You want back capping to stop. Okay, so now what? Which ever teams bulldozer is stronger wins. Congratulations that’s boring and OPR officially becomes equally if not more boring than war.
AGS doesn’t know the meaning of the words “Tone Down” They will gut it. And as always Zerg will be the basis of all pvp. Not strategy, not formation, not tactics, not anything. If people genuinely didn’t want back cappers to succeed it takes literally at most 3.
If you’re so “well versed” in large scale combat, you wouldn’t be on the forums wanting AGS to nerf if. New World doesn’t have the mechanics for true large scale war or true large scale battle. So either you want TDM or you want OPR. Pick one.
Buddy, we just need a pvp mode battlegrounds, that’s all. That is all we wanted, and YOu gave us a place to farm nodes and kill monsters and boss/baron to help you win …
from pvp player perspective this is literally bullshit, sorry for harsh words
Make capping the fort require at least 5 people.
(Solves rat cap)
Increase score for capping the fort.
(Incentivizes objective)
Decrease effectiveness of doors.
(Like for real, auto attacking a door for 4min is not enjoyable)
Separate pvp and pve oprs into two different modes.
(Let players fight players and fort makers defend against npcs.)
Remove the wolves or resposition them
(Frustration)
Back capping will feel ok if there is a good fight to engage with there. But its too easy to rat-cap as a solo
I will be honest, “backcapping” should always be a possible strategie. Also, the way it is right now is not overpower.
- At the moment, it takes longer to cap the less people you have
- You can construct door to prevent back cap
- You are notified the second someone hit the door or is “contesting” a point
- If you have a spawn point, there is a high probability that someone will just revived while a solo is trying to cap
For the PvE aspect of the OPR I totally agree that it is not really something they should have done. But as a PvE playing doing OPR for Gymspum, I would say I appreciate. (Remember, every player they have farming is a player not directly fighting)
and toning it down doesnt make it irrelevant, I just want the buffs they made 1-2 months ago to door repair speed and fort-capping to be reverted lol (and possibly add more cover along roads to reduce the effectiveness of shootouts … aka the 1000 dex players in opr)
yeah especially when you position out of LOS and range of wolves but they aggro to you off of someone running from spawn and then cancels your abilities
definition of fun
Ok so where are the videos showing you cant make it back in time from one fort to another against a solo back cap? Its been a few weeks now and you haven’t posted a single one.
Unless you can admit that you lied multiple times and/or exaggerated to validate your points.
That s because people want a classless game ! And look at crafting too, you can do everything so why bother socialize with others and help each other ?
New World is so centered selfish game i never saw that before ![]()
cause youre quite frankly entitled af and ive simply felt no desire to rush and put in extra work (playing a gamemode thats only irritating nowadays, then recording multiple videos to showcase its not a one time thing, and editing it (sped up to showcase the large issue), and rendering then uploading it) to prove to a forum karen that someone disliking a playstyle is valid.
Still going to do it on MY time, not when you demand it lol I’ll ping you when its done, until then stop nagging. I have a life and quite frankly putting in extra work for you to likely just ignore the problem is the last thing on my mind 99.9% of my days
Yeah when they mentioned they were ‘adding a meaningful upgrade to crafting for people at max craft levels’, I thought they were going to add a system where you could ‘specialize’ in 1-2 crafts that you could lvl to 300. Leveling it to 300 means you get bonus materials when you craft, or more rare quality items. That way people would want to go to you for your crafts.
But instead they added an infinitely scaling number that gives a random loot crate everytime you ‘lvl’ it past 200 lol
Was kinda sad about that
Yeah keep going ad personam matey. Your bs has already been chewed up, digested and disposed of 10x over in this thread you just c/p same crap xD
Not to mention you said those clips were already made
Must have been another lie then.
clips sure but you wanted a whole recording lol
no it hasnt you guys just lack any sort of comprehension or ability to think critically or see from other perspectives. Not my problem. I dont live to satisfy you, nor do the people who agree with me.
I’ll get to it when i get to it
Clip, recording, whatever dude take your pick. Showing one short video of you not being able to stop a solo back cap whilst being at sun obviously isnt a 20 minute video material so why do you even try to nitpick this? Yikes
It has you just lack the ability to admit when you’re in the wrong. Comprehension and critical thinking are the two things you seem to be lacking in, severely.
As for the people who agree with you on solo back cap… where are they exactly? Ah yes, on your discord. Cool.
Truth is you just dont like backcapping which is your sole reason for its nerf. The only valid one you provided as I can’t dispute someone’s preferences (anything else you said absent proof is just jibber jabber).
So… ask yourself do you honestly think that a preference of one dude and 50 others (with 20k players active) on his discord is a reason enough to nerf any mechanic if it isnt OP?
A hint: answer rhymes with “Mo”.
Anyway you struggle with accepting the fact that OPR is not just zerg pushing back n forth.
It was never intended to begin with.
Wars will not be as exclusive as they are soon so maybe you will fit in a roster or two
and have your zerging there. Obviously its just a joke dont bite my head off.
Leave OPR alone as it is finnaly playable (other, factual balance issues aside) outside of zerging around sun.
Finnaly, months of crippling boredom are over.
Your slogans like “true PvPers” and “large scale combat” are also funny, especially the latter considering how it actually looks in OPR.
Also your “toning down” back capping to 5 people would gut any solo/duo/trio play and skirmishes (which are finnaly back in OPR) and be another high five towards big premade comps whilst we still dont have group finders or any matchmaking for OPR. That seems to fly over your head as well Mr critical thinking.
You didnt provide a single proof of back cap being “OP” and kept on making up stories and sharing thoughts and conclusions based on false parameters.
People from multiple servers came in here saying that you’re talking out of your ass. So apparently Castle of Steel (if I recall correctly?) is a server where OPR concludes different than anywhere else? Sure.
You persist and keep on c/p same arguments that were dumpstered 200 posts ago.
But yeah, we are all in the wrong and solo back cap is ruining games 100% xD yet this is the only thread about it since who gives a fuck how long
You already conceded after I gave you a reality check here: Backcapping in OPR needs to stop. Please reduce it's effectiveness - #222 by Blahblah348
so I genuienly dk why I even bother anymore.
Boredom I guess?
In any case see ya when you provide clips. Not that they exist since anyone can break a solo cap if going back from sun or fort respawn… be that as it may I’m not gonna bother you anymore until then.
Peace.
