Never knew this one existed - the one I thought everyone used was the map overlay with the painted over (essentially it was the minimap version of the new world map on the website made in minimap form. only difference was the character location was generated from the ingame api)
But yeah totally agree that a minimap that dynamically spawns and despawns resource locations needs to be banned.
I feel like this gives an advantage to folks with an extra monitor. My opinion on it hasnt changed - if the minimap goes then the online map needs to go as well. Everyone should be on a level playing field.
I disagree simply from how often they break immersion themselves from just a few of the following:
reused npc models
reused city layouts
not being able to swim
carrying thousands of pounds worth of weight
Don’t get me wrong, the vista’s are bloody gorgeous and really make you feel like you’re in the world.
world isnt big enough for mounts - we have fast travel already and now global trading. only a matter time before we get global storage tbh. Might be a different story once more zones are released and azoth costs arent lowered.
The only minimap that should be in game is one that shows your player location in the given area. landmarks and important PoI would be nice as well (so I dont need to keep smashing the M to find the crafting stations i everfall… xD)
If the game was more immersive, I would mark on my map where I found resource locations. You can’t make your own markers, making the minimap the more immersive part of the game…
The fact the compass barely works as it, joined an expedition? leave the game to make it work, super immersive…
Minimap isnt a bad idea since AG cant fix the compass bug since the game launch. Every time you leave expedition your compass doesnt work and mine compass doesnt work 90% of the time…
Doesn’t matter because AGS and EAC can only see Overwolf running, they can’t see what overwolf is doing. The only way AGS can enforce the rules they stated is by testing the overlays themselves, at that point they would have to change their stance on Overwolf and block/ban for using Overwolf.
The long winded post by AGS told us nothing new that we didn’t know. Still some ambiguous information that hasn’t addressed the main points that have remained to be bickered about.
So I’m just going to judge it based on their actions and their actions show they have no desire to stop it or penalize it.
I mean it’s pretty much only be used for screen shots, I don’t want them making it a viable feature for playing the game as it would be to janky with the combat system. Ideally it would be a first person with no body showing and turns the hud off, just useful for taking screenshots and recording duels / wars.
If you want Over wolf to be banned, then you are also asking them to take down all Websites that have maps with Locations of Nodes, Chests, & such. Because not every player that is using those websites have 200 Mining, or Harvesting, & Such.
Also, imagine releasing a game in 2021 and expecting online maps to not exist. I’m not even sure whether that would be arrogance or stupidity, but it’s certainly at least one.
In fact, game developers have used many tricks to extend the time it takes for such maps to be created, often making games extremely tedious for players not using them. It’s also inspired some to use dynamic locations instead. AGS chose not to do any of this, and if they don’t like the results that’s simply their problem.
If you’re arguing that it ruins immersion, the solution is don’t use it…
Unless you think you need to moderate OTHER peoples immersion… That just seems weird.
I would be happy if resource tracking actually worked… It doesn’t. or at least I cant seem to fix it.
I’m talking about the browser online maps. Theres nothing they can do. Even if they sent Cease and desists (which i’m not even sure would do much for a website) to the website owners can easily get a different domain and do it again.
And before you say AGS will just keep taking them down. Thing is the online websites have ADs on them and the amout of traffic they are getting right now for new world is paying way more then the site costs like multiple times.
the devs of the new world map website are already on record saying they will honor a cease and desist - and yes, im well aware how the internet works. if they release the source code, then oh well but any site that gets any significant traffic is going to be taken down pretty fast. at most youll have a couple hundred hits everyday instead of the tens of thousands the current site is getting.
