Ban Overwolf Minimap, it is cheating & ruining immersion

You are on a real crusade to show us the right way to game. Kind of narcissistic. Don’t worry so much about what other people are doing in game.

Let it go young man!

I’m at a loss.

Going to slate this to ESL trolling.

I don’t see a big issue with overwolf as long as it’s not tracking players ai or nodes I mean everyone talking about emersion in game let’s be realistic your on an uncharted place, if you find something of value are you going to stumble around hoping to locate it again or are you going to make a reference to the location if you have a map… me personal I would write it all down on a map. As long as you can’t see if the nodes are mined it’s realistic in my opinion. hopefully when ags introduce a mini map of their own you can track resources you have already visited or gathered

I am saying that you do not understand the perspective a software engineer would have when describing the limitations of a piece of software, which you do not. You have shown it time and again that you are unable to conceptualize what a node would be within the context of game data - just because we are calling the information contained within the minimap a “node”, doesn’t make it so.

They’re notes from players, that’s what they are.

They’re notes from players containing information of where nodes are placed, that’s what they are.

Information to be used for display, even within the limitations expressed below, must come from the Overwolf API,

so player made data containing information of node placement… and your saying still acceptable.

yeah I mean you did try to troll me soo just relax and enjoy what game we do have.

nope your wrong sorry to say even amazon says your wrong.

also I don’t use it or care to the ones who do should be allowed.

Precisely

Correct yes - there is a significant difference between those 2 things.

is it information ? check
is it being displayed ? check
did it come from the overwolf API ? Fail

Information to be used for display, even within the limitations expressed below, must come from the Overwolf API,

seems against ToS ? check

mod is not showing respawn or any alive information, like players etc, just the place where it spawns, its completly the same as you learn the route or check screenshot on second screen.

where has AGS said they are talking about ALIVE data ?

this is such a needless arguement, ive used a map site from day 1, literally everything is shown where it spawns. hell, check you tube, tons of use this run vids out there, and have been since day 1. the issue isnt is a mini map a hack, the issue is why did they make all spawns static in the first place. if they hadnt, then use of a mini map would actually have a benefit, but even then you can track nodes within a certian distance on your compass once you reach a certian level in that skill.
If this is such an issue to some, simply learn the route you are trying to farm, once you have run it just a couple times its super easy to remember spawns.

simply irrelevant atm

It is an obvious convention in programming, this is the core component of this discussion where your lack of background education is coming into play. I’m not trying to insult you, quite the contrary I find it very dismissive that you seem to posit the notion that an education many have spent years attaining has no value when interpreting systems directly sourced from the same industry. You’ve clearly not required one at all to fully understand the prescription from AGS enough to argue with others that they have no idea what they’re talking about.

If you don’t have a background in software engineering or design, why would you ever assume you would be proficient at evaluating interacting data structures and programs? I can’t fathom telling a mechanic or a doctor how much better I can interpret facets of their industry.

This is an exemplary case where you have not only completely misunderstood the prescribed limitations, but what they apply to. Using your (il)logic google chrome, spotify, pretty much any program on your computer would fail these checks.

You do not understand this discussion, you have completely misinterpreted how to apply the data limitations AGS has placed on the mini-map plugins, and you do not know enough about software design to understand the types of data and interactions that AGS or any game studio for that matter would be able to manage under their jurisdiction as a developer (no game studio thinks they are allowed to ban you for keeping photos of your family on your computer).

The level of contradiction and confusion present in the Dev blog following your interpretation is ridiculous, the post makes absolutely no sense nor would that stance if it were what they intended.

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Incorrect, the only thing that is being “pulled” is your player location.
The locations of everything else is static on the overlay already, and can be toggled.

For the people in the back the current minimap addons on overwolf are completely allowed i have been using them and thousands of others are using it with zero bans there has been no change of ags stance on this matter

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Yea Evilboy has the right of it. No bans. Overwolf is fine. Honestly nothing to see here other than another idgit whining about their “immersion.” Pro-tip for those folks, go play Skyrim with out mods. Have fun.

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It’s a very simple and basic concept. Don’t like it? Don’t use it? you talk about ruining experiance…well news flash…if its not the minimap then its a 2nd monitor map…or videos showing pathing…there is no ‘exploring or ruining of the immersion’ (That’s a per player choice) get your head outta your ass and actually look at the real big picture…such as 900k players at first…now barely 200k players…because the game is as broken as can be…Its not because of a minimap that 700k players stopped playing the game.

The minimap isn’t a hack or an exploit so stop comparing it as such. You should brush up on your reading / definitions before you start making wild accusations with no legit argument

If you don’t want ‘nodes’ to be known…Well thats on AGS not anybody else…since they respawn in the same spot ALL THE TIME…with no change…that isn’t a minimap problem just a AGS problem

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Yep ^