Banned people abusing Steam family share

The point being made is that you can do this by yourself without need of an external person or buying a new copy of the game

Hell I can even just log on her PC and do it without her being around

I’d like to keep this one alive because I’d actually like to see this side step that I’d causing a few problems get it’s loophole closed

None of which is the result of family sharing but the result of you abusing two accounts and computers.

But family sharing gives me access to alt accounts for free, is that hard to grasp?

@Luxendra can we have some official response to this?

None of which give you any power over what you already had. Is that hard to grasp?

How?? I can have infinite mules for free

Now you are just making no sense

I’ve already explained that no, you can’t. In detail too. To which you replied with how you can use your own account to store items for other players. You can already do that, you don’t need to family share for it.

So again, family sharing doesn’t allow you to do anything you can’t do with your main account. I will be happy to hear any other points offered but I already broke down the five mentioned by another, storage being their first point.

Christ… What part of having multiple characters on the same server through family sharing isn’t clear to you? You didn’t explain anything, you just either don’t understand or play dumb to keep using what really is an unintended loophole

Act rude all you want. It’s you who can’t seem to understand that you are just one person with one account, and unless you can use those accounts together to create an advantage over other players, it doesn’t matter how many accounts you have.

If you want to discuss how you think those accounts can be used together to create an advantage than I am all ears and happy to discuss. However if all you can do is start insulting and throwing a tantrum, Im honestly not interested.

Thanks for taking the time to respond.

Are you aware that the first 3 faction quests each day give you 10 times the gold?

Let me break it down real simple so we are both on the same page.

There is no limit in how many family share accounts I can have, the limit is in how many active family share accounts I have at one time, which I think is five. This doesn’t really matter because you are free to add and remove family share accounts at will.

So…my wife and I both have our own accounts and with family share active we could make an unlimited amount of alt family share accounts.

Now we could use those unlimited alts to do the ‘DAILY’ faction bonus quests to get 10 x the gold.

We would simply then just send the gold via each others character to give it to our main characters. Is this not exploiting a game mechanic using family sharing?

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Because you can have multiple characters on the same server with just one copy of the game

Really, you don’t see the problem with that??

I didn’t even know this was an option. Silly me. I bought my 8 year old and my 13 year old their own copy. I’ve got no issues with family sharing (sounds awesome as I have 4 kids), but I do hope AGS can stay on top of who is cheating/duping and banning them.

Banning the key seems most appropriate. (yes, Little Timmy shouldn’t be allowed to play if Dad is duping. Tsk Tsk, Dad… set a better example).

Some of these posts are downright worthless though. If your argument is, “the internet said so”… please stop posting.

Yes I am, which is why I stated I could see your point on non repeatable things like the story quests for ex. However the work still needs to be done and like you said it’s a barrier.

This isn’t exactly true like you make it sound. Yes it is true that you can add them and remove them freely. However, accounts found to abuse family sharing are subject to a VAC ban and having their family sharing privilege’s removed. Same as if someone cheats while using your copy. Adding and removing account in mass will be flagged.

I can pay $40 for an extra copy and do everything you are talking about right now. Like you mentioned the $40 is a natural barrier to help curve that scale. It’s no different for the amount of work these exploits take. So at what point does one barrier matter and not another?

Bringing us right back to my ending fact. These aren’t exploits of family sharing since you can remove family sharing and still do them. Therefore the answer is not to remove family sharing but to fix the cause of the issues to begin with.

lol, my whole family plays and we are in different states and all own our own copies because we play together as a family.

Family sharing doesn’t let you play together, as only one copy of the game can be running at a time.

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Yep, I was aware of that. Doesn’t sound like you’re disagreeing with me (maybe you didn’t mean to reply to me). I prefer to play WITH my kids, so getting them their own copy was really the only option.

Anywho…, I haven’t seen a good argument as to why banning the KEY isn’t a good solution.

You are clearly invested in family sharing, but in being so, you are also making life easier for anyone that does RMT to abuse it to make money.

I’ve detailed, probably a little to clearly how it can be abused.

It seems you are more concerned about losing the ability to utilise family sharing then you are about the wellbeing of the game.

As I don’t know your circumstances, I’m happy to leave it there.

Incorrect but you are free to think whatever you want. I’ve explained several times that being able to abuse something isn’t a valid enough reason to just remove it. It’s a lazy reason to. Why? Because it can still be easily exploited other ways.

Which means in the end all you are doing is screwing over innocent people who use family sharing while the abusers go on to exploit in other ways. I don’t want some lazy solution that hurts players. I want to find a way to actually end the exploit with the least impact to good players.

If you want to walk away from that then no one can stop you. But don’t claim to have tried helping or being concerned for the well being of the game.

Banning the key is a solution for people trying to circumvent their ban, but family sharing still allows you to have multiple characters on the same server for free

I don’t get it. What does it matter if they have multiple characters if their key is banned?

It’s not for people who have been banned and detecting the fact that you have multiple characters on the same server through family sharing is hard and probably not a bannable offense in itself, as you could do the same by buying more than a copy. Family sharing removes the economical barrier