Bans = good …. Permanent = Bad

Dear AGS devs and community.

I hope I speak on behalf of everyone when I say that I want new world to be a thriving successful mmorpg. In order to achieve this, we need to talk about Bans !!!

Over the past year we have seen players:
-duplicate gold,
-duplicate items,
-craft forced 600gs gear,
-advertise and sell the game currency for real world currency,
-run bot scripts
-run cheating software to automatically hit headshots with 200% success
-behave incredibly toxically
-and much , much more

These issues all undermine the health of the game , and AGS have had to deal with them all in a variety of different ways. In the past, ags was too lenient. This is a problem because it sends a message that exploiting is a worthwhile activity. In light of this leniency , ags chose to step up their response, permanently banning players for utilising a crafting exploit that ensured 600gs gear.

Ags have sent their message loud and clear. They will not tolerate deliberate exploitations that give players an unfair advantage, well done ags.

My concern is that ags are not providing a pathway for players to return to the game. Some people are genuinely bad people who want to ruin the game for everyone (I’m looking at you toxic global chat bully’s) while others just get caught up In the wrong crowd , or genuinely regret their actions. First time offenders are being treated the same as repeat offenders, and someone who bought out an entire market is being treated the same as someone who used their own resources. We want good , remorseful players to come back to the community so that they can contribute positively to the game once again.

The solution:
Consider scaling their banning system. Banning players for 3 months is a sufficiently harsh punishment. Any players who offend again after that are clearly not learning their lesson and deserve a permanent ban. But the current system of permanently banning everyone regardless of context or severity is preventing many remorseful veteran players players from coming back and playing with their friends.

The appeal system
This system is awful ! People aren’t told why they are banned. They are locked out of forum chats: they get automatically rejected without any human consideration at all and sometimes the responses don’t even make sense ! When I appealed my ban , I was told that I am not banned !!! What am I supposed to do now !

The solution:
Clearly communicate the consequences of an action and tell players why they are banned:

E.g.
duping gold = 12 month ban
Repeat offence = permanent ban
Forcing crafts = 3 month ban
Selling forced crafts = 6 month ban
Repeat offence = perminsnt ban

This will help layers decide not to engage in exploits or cheats because the consequences are clear , and it will help communicate to players why they are banned and streamline the appeal system:

Please let me know your thoughts,
A permanently Banned veteran player of 3200+ hours who regretfully tried to craft himself some gear using the 600gs exploit :disappointed:

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Using the 600GS exploit was obviously going to result in a ban and I have no sympathy for anyone trying to profit from it. However, I do feel that you should be able to be unbanned at some point, given that those items have been removed from your account.

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No. People know right from wrong and the toc is clear. If you get caught, you are out.

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It seems we have reached the bargaining stage of grief.

You know it was against ToC and very deliberately did it anyway. Your logic that you didn’t think you’d actually get punished is not a compelling argument for clemency.

A lot of us asked AGS to crack down harder on cheaters and exploiters. And they did – cause for celebration!

You can play New World again. You just need to buy a new copy and start over.

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You used an exploit.

Permanent = good.

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If you cannot behave in society, you are removed from society.

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Wow, no room for reformation on the forums. Ruthless.
@Asri
@Valethar
Shame

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Someone got permaban xd

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Not necessarely ! What if you used exploit without noticing it or happened without your consentment ?

Using any explot should result in a ban but there are 2 types of exploits:

  1. old one where ppl were farming bosses from range - this should be temp ban
  2. you use exploid that does affect economy - perma ban

Same with boting and other stuff. It does affect whole server economy - perma ban.

If what players did does affect only small % of player base ban should be temp.
Should work like 1-7 days of ban for each player affected. So if server has 10k players and you affected them all ban is 10-70k days. GL.

But if you cheated and affected 39 players in 1 opr game. 39 days ban would do.

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He admitted to using an exploit. The shame is his.

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Doesn’t apply in this case. He admitted to using it.

Zero sympathy.

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Either way a “temp” ban over serveral moths would have the exact same effect. These exploiters would just move on to another game. Or do you expect them sitting at their PC every single day, crying that they can’t play and regretting their actions, so they can login the second their ban is lifted? xD

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Buy the game again, start from scratch, redeem your way back.

Ideally, AGS will start hardware ID’ing offenders and perma ban them for good.

These are my thoughts you asked for. Have a nice day.

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Easy to verify. Happened to you once and you reported it? Fine. Did you do it AGAIN? PERMABAN.

Also one does not “accidentally” stack crafting trophies. Don’t bullshit yourself.

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Has no one here ever made a mistake or regretted a decision ?

How do you want players to apologise ?

What can we do to correct our mistakes ?

If you realy want me to leave I guess I have to leave :disappointed:

You apologize through reporting the issue to AGS. Anyone who hasn’t reported the dupe or forced 600gs crafting bug has abused them on purpose.

In my company we talked about this when the bugs were made public in global. One player was like “should I test this for myself and see what I can get?”. Tell you what, the entire company told them to not do it, as it will result in a deserved ban.

But now we have abusers crying for mercy and begging to be unbanned because they couldn’t control their greed. Totally deserved bans. Buy a new copy or find a different game to exploit in.

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That’s totally fair. I deserve what I get. It was fun while it lasted :disappointed: farewell new world , I will miss you

Bye.

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as if people would not exploit in dungeons every day lmao if those guys get banned one day the forums are burning

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