Better to rip off the Band-Aid now than later: Nerf S&S

I’m strictly speaking from a PVE perspective. There are two aspects of S&S that will clearly create problems in the future and the signs are already showing. Those are the Leadership Perk and Fortifying shield rush perk. Every new tank weapon that is made will have to be made taking those two perks into consideration. If a new tank weapon is made, it will have to either deal insane damage or have insane survivability to compete, which would of course make it OP in PVP. These two perks will make balancing future tank weapons a nightmare as they set the bar for what is good in PVE for tanks. It would be better to create support DPS weapons along the lines of VG or IG that are able to provide buffs such as leadership that can give DPS players or healers alternative ways of supporting their groups.

Yeah , nobody cares about sword and board in PvE , it’s not OP , nobody even wants to play it as a spec . If sword and board is so great play it and don’t tell anyone , that way you can wtfpwn everyone in PvP and solo all the PvE content …If we do it your way S&S has no damage , and also no mobility , and also no damage mitigation , and also no group benefits , and also no utility …what’s left ? …then you suggest giving DPS perks and support perks to the DPS weapon speclines , but that wound NOT be OP …? I do not play S&S I am life/Hammer spec , although I have played S&S and it’s not fun in PvE , it’s a bit fun in PvP , only 1v1 or 1v2 and without any AOE CC or range or gap closers , and you have to go light armor , even chest because of shield weight (buckler only) , so it’s fun to kill people who have no clue how to play , that’s it .

They literally just released GS which everyone is crying is OP in PVP. If they nerf GS dmg for PVP’ers why would any PVE tanker play it? The only utility it has at the moment is it’s good damage. Damage boosting effects like leadership or empower scale with how good your team is, if you have really good DPS players they get more from empower effect and so it’s an effect that will always be wanted. If they make new tank weapons it either has to always give empower to your team or something better. If it gives something better, like high damage its obvious people will cry its OP. This will be repeated with future weapons if they don’t nerf S&S. It’s fine if you don’t care about PVE but some people do.

I’d hold off on any PvE critique until we see the block changes they have been promising for a while now…

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