Bow is doing huge damage, i’m not a casual pvp player . I have on me full set resiliant+shirink fort+gem so please dont lie yourself or others. They need to reduce skills damage, you cant hit more damage with explosion arrow then FS with fire ball, huge range, hitbox, why some weapons can hit from other side of the map and some restricted to some range and that range for ice/fire is so fucking small that any close combat mele can reach to you in few second. The zoom , what is that? why bow/musket have zoom and other range dont ?? Play fire staff or ice gauntlet and you will notice a big difference hiting with light/heavy attack. So they need to balance weapons.
Socket emeralds, resilient, freedom and physical aversion perks on your armor.
On your amulet get the 4.9% thrust damage protection.
Run 200 con.
And why should i do that? in this game we dont have any more weapons, why should i force myself or anyone to have full defence for bow/musket when you can simple do something to them?!
im 625 gs and run 410 dext … i nvr hit anywhere near these numbers on people. Maybe fresh 60s? Or if they have javelin sunder on them…
These numbers seem skewed just saying…
Having both used the Bow and vs’ing the Bow/Musket as a GA/WH or FS/IG, I can definitively say that most people can avoid gemming for Thrust. Learning proper movement, i.e. dodge, strafe, jump and prone while moving erratically, will allow you to get either into the “Zerg Ball” (ZB), behind a tree, near a healer or inside a structure to break line of sight. Once you break their line of sight, you don’t need to worry about thrust damage, for the most part.
On the other hand, you should, in my opinion, use your gear and gems to avoid the damage type(s) you find killing you most often, since you are able to avoid or mitigate the other damage types fairly successfully, since you aren’t dying to them frequently.
The other day in OPR I hit a dude with Pillar for 7k! It was wild. I often hit 4-5k fireballs on squishy as well.
Wrong perks I would say. Even I hit someone for 6k+ on my 2 Bow OPR rounds this year.
doubtful , i have basically every bis bow in the game imo
i just feel like yall are hitting returning players at sub gear and GS
bows: attunement , vicious, rap pen ; attunement , vorpal , enchant; attunement, vicious, keenly jagged ; attunement , vicious , keenly empowered
other day i got some 50+ kill games in OPR , That game was literally full of sub 600 gs people. Was early in the morning and i dont think a lot of the normal pvpers were on. If this is what you are using your 6k hits on , then sure. But i mean those people are undergeared to the max
i went rapier / spear build in next game and still was getting 30+ kill games against these people… they just melt in light with 600 gs (regardless of perks they using). But honestly idk what perks they were using , but i could tell was not normal high gs gear.
Truth be told idt it mattered what build i went. I was wiping them no matter what. And im not bragging, it is literally just returning players i believe, the oprs felt like i was a raid boss. They are undergeared and on another note they seemed to not know pvp mechanics that well.
This is exactly how light armor should work. You took massive damage for wearing the weakest armor.
Once musket is no longer hitscan this is how all ranged weapons should work. They need buffs to come even remotely close to the damage output of melee which can attack 2-3 times faster.
Don’t wanna take massive damage? Put on some medium or heavy armor.
And remove Mortal Empowerment/Shirking Fortification.
Dodge
I totally agree bow dmg need to be nerfed.
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I just looked at the video…
And wow these numbers are skewed for one BIG thing. You have sundering riposte on you (and most likely the weapon perk sundering). That’s absolutely huge. ~23%+ more damage flat. Head shot with pen shot seems on the 6k at plus 20 meters which gives bonus dmg. Also, i recommend switching out the sinful glare for a physical dom. And maybe getting 1-2 more pieces of armor of physical dom rather than mutual (i see u have one physical dom). 742 phys is low imo but if mages give you trouble too then probably best you can go. 625 bow hitting you with a average of 612ish gs on your ARMOR (that plays a big part also).
Just a tip you really shouldn’t stam out right there and if u do u need to start zig zagging. Pro play there is keep 1+ stamina and do the twirk jump loop (lol whatever u wanna call it).
As far as nerfing bow goes if they DO nerf bow (which i hope they dont), then i hope they just make the hitbox slightly smaller. Dont mess with the dmg numbers. Just imo of course take with a grain of salt.
The amount of just bad bow players in OPR is astounding though, and no matter what build i go, they are free kills. I know who the good bow players are and if i am in a uncomfortable build that i am trying then i typically stay away from them. If you dont know, it’s pretty easy to hit the scoreboard and just see who is doing well. I just notice the top 5 guys and kinda keep their names in back of my head.
You know damn well that if i go full light armor with a hatchet you deal 25% the damage a bow does to you, and you are telling me thats the risk? Whats the point on going light as a melee if ranged players one shot you and you cant even deal damage to them? Thats not a “light armor risk”, thats just pure bow overpowered damage
The issue comes when bows can kill pretty much any other damage class, while any other damage class cant kill bows because 1. they cant reach them 2. even if they do, they get melted before being able to land 2 hit.
Mages might be the exception but their range is way lower than bows, and thats ok, but still no point. This is an MMO, not Warzone.
Except the bow in this situation does that damage on one shot per minute due to triggered buffs. The hatchet does it on every attack. Stop being disingenuous.
As for your next post, no the bow cannot out damage any other class. I am 100% certain now you have never played the bow in PVP.
1 shot every minute? They buffed charged attack time to be faster than any other weapon, bow has animation canceling and a skill that fires 3 arrows quickly. The ammount of copium is insane bro. Bow is known to be OP for almost any player, hence the reason 20 out of 50 players play it. Bow cannot outdamage any other class? Lmao, you cant be serious, maybe you didnt reach 60. any bow player, 625 with attunement/jagged/enchanted deals EASY 4k hits no crit. Thats more than the 1.6-2.3k average damage any other melee class does. Plus you have the advantage of being far away, so yeah.
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And it still fires half as fast as melee swings so it should do twice as much damage, not to mention you have to hit your own shots, not have the game do tracking for your melee left click spam.
You clearly have not played a bow so your argument is invalid. You see the streamers all in light armor, got rekt because you dont know how to dodge and are crying for bow nerf.
People spam bow in OPR because it has multiple dot’s that get the 3k points easier when getting rolled over by pre-mades.
Even in this fantasy scenario you say they have BIS bow perks and 625 everything. You are a joke.
Melee tracking is broken atm, maybe GA has a lunge but most melee weapon track isnt working as intended and that makes playing melee a shit experience, more considering the game is fast paced and you have haste on almost anything. Any MMO has melee tracking since its obviously impossible to stick to a target at melee range and deal damage.
Fantasy? Wich server are you on? On my server any bow player has BiS gear because the ammount of returning players is minimun. I didnt play bow but i see how stupid it is, you clearly only main bow because you feel “good” for oneshotting people in the most stupid/easiest class to one shot people. “you have to aim” yeah, what do you expect from a bow. The fact you even come up with that as an excuse just implies you know damn well how stupid it is. You could potentially bring up that bow needs positioning but you decided to tell me you need to aim.
Just know when bow gets nerfed (it will, trust me) you wont have any weapon to main since you probably never touched melee and only play shooters. Take your time, pick a melee class and see for yourself how stupidly broken bow is. If i wanted to feel the same “struggle” you feel, id pick a bis bow and start oneshotting people from a far distance, maybe stuggling to face melee combats but why the fuck would you even consider going melee as a ranged
First off, I have mastery 20 in all weapons and rotate my build every week. I know what playing every weapon is like. Bow is not broken. You are just mad you got a hard hit because you are wearing paper armor.
When bow gets a buff, and it will, maybe you will consider switching to heavier armor so you don’t get repeatedly killed running in a straight line.
The fact that you say it’s easy to one shot people proves your ignorance. You cannot one shot people in this game unless the stars align and you stacked 15 mortal empowerment stacks. Even then it is exceedingly rare and always the fault of the one getting shot with 5 con and no armor.