Bow is incredible weak

what do you want man ?

Bow is arguably the highest skill ceiling weapon and isn’t weak by any means. It has its drawbacks but they are pretty well balanced with the amount of pressure you can put out if played correctly.

I’m sorry to say, but this sir is a simple matter of Git Gud.

Bow is in need a of a mobility nerf along with musket, dex players already get priority of movement by having reduced roll cost. as soon as you get close to or touch a dex player they have fleche/ evade movespeed + stam gain/ 10-30% movespeed bow/ evade shot / triple light roll + jump shots so theyre miserable to hit in ranged fights. They should not have this much mobility no one can touch them if they are playing well.

While dex players with bow/musket/rapier have the most mobility bow players also has some of the highest damage 2k light autos with jump shots and the 240% WEP damage dot ( the highest in the game with spear which is ridiculous, why does dex get all the dots ???)

I’m going to agree. For PvP and high-end PvE i feel like it needs a big buff. I’m pretty good at aiming but missed shots drastically lower your dps while other dmg types can just glue themselves to the target. The bow does hit super hard, but only during the opening shot… after that it’s all downhill. I don’t do the jump/shoot exploit so not sure if that increased speed from that bridges the gap but an increase in speed or dmg is definitely needed. Would be nice if we had some sort of DPS meter so we can see how far off all these weapons are from each other. We should be the top or close to the top DPS considering 1. Skill based aiming 2. Arrows cost a fortune to make/buy. There’s magic in the game, why can’t we have magic bows with unlimited arrows like in OPR and maybe we slot an expensive mod into it for the multiplier? Or change it so the same mats let you cast a full stack not just a few arrows. I think at current prices a set of orichalcum arrows is like 800 in mats. Oh… and we need to carry a ton of extra weight (arrows) when doing longer content.

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Exactly this. When you can land a shot, it feels great! But there are times when I just keep missing, doing exactly ZERO damage, whether it be to ping/desync/dodges or simply my aim is just off for that fight. The bow is one of the most balanced weapons in my opinion being high risk/high reward.

Footnote, I also do not do the jump cancel thing, so perhaps my view is altered because of that.

If u think 10% movement speed is alot then sorry but someone having 20-30% just passt me by even with rapier dex is strong but not the bow itself it needs a buff its hart to use so u have to get the reward on high numbers or just make the spells les cool down with faster arrows faster atk speed and the spells should have t he old animation cancel so u can burst light/medium down

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The OP won’t listen to what anybody say my friend, while I can barely understand what he says due to the poor English that you rightfully mentioned, what I can salvage from his words and conclude based on them and his arguments in the posts from other people replying to him, is that this guy is just a terrible bow player.

Just like you said, the bow is pretty mobile and this doesn’t have anything to do with rapier, you get a speed boost when you switch weapons like you said, but as a bow user you have 3 speed boosts in total (dodge and weave for 10%, Archers speed for 10% and Go the Distance for 15% if your talented on evade shot) which make you pretty mobile, you basically have a speed boost the whole time while moving around and being mobile doesn’t just mean being the best at scaping but also at roaming around the map which makes you better at searching targets and not letting people scape from you.

This guy mentions he does 2k damage with his bow, I don’t know what the hell he is shooting at or what bow he is using, but I’ve done 7k+ to geared light armor users, 4.5k+ to geared med armor users and the usual 800-1.6k to fully committed tanks with full con and 5 str, and by geared I mean 590+ GS, while I’m currently running 100 con and 350 dex with a 599 vicious/keenly jagged bow and light armor.

The bow is by no means a weak weapon, it’s a joke calling it like that, what exists is unskilled bow users who lands 1 shot every 20 arrows and by the time they land a second shot, their enemy is already at full health, at melee range, or the bow user is already death, I believe OP belongs to this kind of user, perhaps he is trying to play the game like the typical FPS where you can dive in with a gun and kill everybody with 3 shots before they notice you are there and this is clearly not that kind of game.

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I guess you didnt read the entire list of reasons why dex has more mobility over every other class you just cherrypicked the 10% and commented on that but ok. if you cant consistantly hit bow shots that deal 1.5-2.5k damage every 2 seconds I think its a gear/aiming issue

I don’t have BiS bow or even close and I’m hitting pretty dang hard in PVP with my bow. I think w/ food I’m sitting at 432~ Dex. Oh and my bow isn’t lvl 20 yet.

:man_shrugging: Build better?

If you are taking advantage of non-intended mechanics, how is that not an exploit? That’s the exact definition of exploit lol

I agree that it shouldn’t be bannable, though.

Because it is a mechanic… I suppose it’s a matter of perspective which is why I framed it as my opinion. I would consider for instance the ability to break through a wall of a fort or shake your window to avoid damage… exploits. Using the games combat mechanics to their maximum potential I don’t consider exploiting.

Essentially because you can jump after an attack(I don’t know if this can be done on other weapons) that probably is intended for various reasons. Using it continuously probably wasn’t, but actually it doesn’t reduce the time between one shot and the next. I’ve tested it… It does allow you to move out of the animation faster though allowing you to remain more mobile.

Ultimately though it doesn’t matter why I don’t consider it an exploit. I have already expressed I don’t think it should be in the game. If that is a sentiment you disagree with I’d be happy to discuss it. I got the impression you did agree though…

wth are you wearing that bow can crit you for 6k?

Light musket build , like everyone else in opr

Just Give us a Makro Button to have a whole set of armor on one click! IM TIRED of trying to find pieces of armor all around it’s disgustingly tiring! im relaxing at home off work to chill not to be frustrated… TOO MANY PIECES OF ARMOR AND WEAPONS make the game stupid…
keep it simple please… u old heads xD

Ptr is up Join and show me how good u are Yakusiii is my name just add me lets have some fun :slight_smile:

if you think bow is single target in wars than you should start playing your bow like you should be in wars. sry to tell you that much.

Bow is single target fire ice is aoe musket is single target idk what u smoke but its not good for ur brain lol

Bow weak ? seriously ? I cant even cath up to a light bow user with a ga unless I play a certain build and even than they can kite the shit out of me without any problem … Bow arnt weak… they have the most mouvement speed with the haste … + 90% of them play with rapier wich move out of grav well with Evade and Fleche … so litterally impossible to catch …

ah sry i didnt see that you use 0 out of your 3 skills in wars. my bad

PTR Yakusiii come come…