Adding a change like this in the 4th (and possibly final?) iteration of this months PTR without documenting it is not really the best way of getting good feedback on potential changes. Bow actually felt good in the first three patches, so people won’t go out of their way to test it a 4th time if there’s no communication / transparency about it being changed again…
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lol, tottaly broken
honestly it seems like that was the intention. stealth nerf it. call it a bug and promise to fix it 6 months later. Like how do I honestly try to recommend this game to anyone with stuff like this constantly. Its way past a meme at this point.
RNG Arrows boyz ! Archers will now play HeartstoneNewWorld 
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New perks incoming 30% chance arrow goes where you are aiming. 30s cooldown.
With alll due respect @Shadow_Fox, we’re in the last week before it’s supposed to release and the bow feels worse than on live now. How likely is it that they adjust it shortly beforehand or that it goes live and stays in a weird state for another month minimum?
I will wait out the final version, but this PTR update alone killed the entire bow revamp hype for me. Also, as mentioned by multiple people, just a reminder on the bow situation:
- Bow has been gutted since january, nearly useless for the average player in high lvl PvP.
- FIVE months later we get promises of a better bow. Now, one week before release, bow on PTR feels even worse than on live (still F tier version from january).
All I’m saying is that I don’t have a good feeling about the upcoming PvP release at all, which is sad since I’ve been waiting for arenas since launch.
On topic: That arrow RNG has to go LMAO. Some more RNG clips from live versions:
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“Play great axe or gtfo.” – Jeff Bezos
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Maybe we can get Elon to buy AGS next.
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Remember when greataxe was nerfed a few ptr’s ago and people cried so much that it ended up being buffed stronger than what it was on live? bows got the opposite treatment lol. we got buffed in ptr. ppl cried on forums. and now we’re gonna be nerfed even worse than live version bow…
hope the bruisers left playing have fun when this game drops below <10k peak pop in a couple months
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I enjoy your youtube content. If this goes through i look forward to seeing what game you switch to.
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If this is their idea of giving bow some love and making it more playable, it might be time to move on. It’s supposed to be a highly mobile, high skill cap, powerful in the right hands weapon.
And, just for a little extra context, I have never said, “if xxx then I’ll quit” in a forum post in my life.
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It’s so sad that if this current state gets pushed to live the majority of the players won’t even be able to see what bow could have been. First patch of the PTR bow felt great. It was fluid. Impactful. Why revert that? Especially without talking to the community about it.
Damnn… I was looking forward to committing to the bow, rip
Can AGS do one thing right plsss
Same with the time gate
Come on
So, is the nerf now that the bow isn’t 100% accurate from long range while moving? If so, cry me a river. Maybe a better alternative is weapon sway based on range and stamina?
Looked fine to me, personally I think long range while not moving should be less accurate also.
Transparency - is your best friend when it comes to these changes. The more frequent you let the players know - the faster we will actually jump into the PTR with full excitement to test the changes and provide our feedback in the most constructive way as possible. Here’s to hoping we get more changes done that underwent proper testing in the future.
I’m not playing PTR myself because I’m burned out of game and taking a break till May patch. I was hoping and was hopeful because we heard great things about bow players who tested in on PTR and said they were starting having fun yet again with it. YET AGAIN, here we are PTR#4 patches shadow nerf a lot of the BOW mobility and everything while disregarding some of the OP weapons combo ( Hello SnS aimbot tracking while my vault kick can’t hit anything 1m away). I feeel more and more than AGS teams have a TOTAL disconnect with playerbase. Won’t surprise me if Peak daily players drop to 15k and less in couple next week. Anyone who want 800 asmo / 700 RL / 700 phoenix just hit me up on CoS
If the bow hits live server like OP shows in his video, I’m done.
You guys must think we’re a bunch of clowns.
The devs created a great balance for 3 weeks and a few days before launching the patch they ruined everything and made the bow worse than it’s live version.
We were waiting 5 MONTHS for this. Five freaking months.
I invested soooo many hours of my life in this game just to be treated like an idiot.
If this is what you decided to be the “bow balance”, I’m out.
Have fun with your 15k peak players in a month.
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Whats the reason for not documenting this?
Its not a slight nerf or change that people won’t notice.
And last week of PTR too?
If players were burnt out and didn’t test the Bow this would go in Live.
Not that it matters, but now it feels like it’ll go in live anyway. Enjoy your jobs while you bleed players to stale meta on GA/WH and arthritis induced by left click spam.
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This isn’t even a simple nerf. This is a fundamental rework of how the bow works. 2000 hours in game (real time, not steam), thousands of gold spent…and they put bloom on the shots?
I wouldn’t even have chosen a fricking bow in the first place if there was bloom.
It’s like they are saying: “Oh you like the bow? You like playing the most difficult weapon in game? Nice…Screw you! Try with RNG arrows”
I get it, it’s a PTR, but the mere fact they are even thinking about doing something like that is bonkers.
UNBELIEVABLE
I talked to the team and there were no intended changes made to the arrow spread. Most likely, this is a bug.
Edit: I have also confirmed that the other items in this thread were not adjusted on purpose. The team is investigating.
To make sure this reply doesn’t get hidden, I’m going to lock this thread.
Thanks!
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