true, but only if you consider all parts of this game. For PVE its crap. For PVP its only crap in Arena because of the limited space. In wars it can be usefull. But in OPR, and i would guess thats the most played pvp part for all players, it has a huge impact.
Powdershot alone is so strong and have great impact in OPR fights. Great slow and i would say strongest dot in the game.
But you also have to consider that it’s the only weapon in the game that’s trash for PVE (any other weapon is viable for PVE)
So you can’t really complain in that sense. The weapon is dogshit in other areas but oprs and you guys want it nerfed EVEN MORE!?
Also true, but if i would 1-hit every Mob in this game with a weapon but its crap in pvp, it would still be OP 
As far as I’m concerned, you can buff the musket properly for PVE and just bring it into line when it comes to PvP.
Make it 1-shot mobs in pve and crap for pvp. Guess the mobs won’t start complaining in this forum
If you don’t see the difference and reach 10 muskets have to what 10 melee have there is no convincing you. Go into a large field. Space out 10 players far apart randomly. Have 10 melee players kill each one at a time then the 10 musket players. The muskets will do it in a fraction of a time with a much lower TTK, they are a force multiplier in big open areas like this. This is just common sense I am not sure why you are arguing they both have the same effectiveness in numbers. Obviously the low damage with long projection will outperform the high damage with low projection when in larger numbers. After you have enough damage to one shot anything you hit the only thing that matters is range.
I am not arguing to nerf muskets, but the difference here is undebatable.
Nobody is asking to make the weapon “OP” In PvE lmao just make it VIABLE doesnt equate one-shotting.
That’s as far as you’re concerned, but is musket getting buffs for PVE? No, just people on the forums screaming, crying and whining for it to NERFED in the ONLY category where it actually works “PVP”
Difference? You really want to compare a weapon designed to excel in ‘LONG RANGE’ engagements with a MELEE weapon which is designed for ‘CLOSE RANGE’ engagements? You even want to set it up for failure and have these players SPACED OUT FAR APART RANDOMLY?
Sounds like a biased doctored scenario to setup the failure of another weapon in an unequal environment to prove a point.
You are the one who argued 5 melee is just as effective as 5 muskets shooting someone in OPR. This is simply false. Players are spaced out in OPR. 5 muskets can jump from one player to another across the map in a matter of seconds. This is why high projection classes in MMO’s always completely out perform in high numbers.
Put 5 melee on the point v.s 5 muskets on the point in OPR (who wins?) Yes the melee on the point because musket cannot perform at close-range obviously. That’s the nature of the weapon, and OPRs are an OBJECTIVE BASED PvP mode. Meaning, even if musket A gets 10 kills if his team doesn’t get the point they lose.
If everyone spawned in on the point and couldn’t leave the point you would have a valid argument. Unfortunately for you the points are extremely spaced out, there is a baron way out on the side of the map, and there are extremely long runs from a respawn when you die.
if oprs are won by getting the most kills then your point would be valid but that’s not the case. It doesn’t matter if the points are spaced out if you zerg through the map together you don’t die as melee (specially heavy melee)
You’re complaining because you chose to ran in the open alone, refused to use your iframes, refused to use your defensives and your potions when you are being engaged and when you die, come over here to the forums and complain.
If multiple muskets shoot one target ( the target SHOULD die) there is no surviving the effort of multiple players by yourself, if you have your team you will be fine. Oh I can’t 1vX so nerf the X weapon please.
If multiple melees focus one target (the target WILL die) as well
So your contention is that 5 muskets can’t kill a healer? 5 muskets can also absolutely kill a medium bruiser. You have to run from point to point. If you don’t think 4-5 good muskets melting respawns and healers running from point to point is conducive to winning OPR I can’t argue with you. Obviously you also need bruisers and healers to fight on the point.
The reason musket is getting nerfed now, and the reason people continue to complain about it is because most muskets I see make these 4-5 man premade dex groups of muskets and go around one shotting people from rocks and safety in OPR.
Which is my point, it’s extremely easier for multiple muskets to get from one target to another than it is for any other class to get from kill target to kill target. You are the one who can’t acknowledge that. If all classes could go from target to target in the same amount and time and speed it would be balanced.
My contention is 5stack of anything is going to kill any ONE player. Period.
If your OPRs allow 5-man dex premades to sit uncontested then your server is so casual that you just get farmed all day that’s why you’re in here crying instead of having a 5-stack contest their 5-stack. And you don’t even need to be 5man dex, you could be 5-man light assassin kill squad with a pocket healer (easiest counter to musket squads)
No one is talking about killing one player. They are talking about a 5 stacks ability to control massive swathes of the map and one shot anyone in that area that they wish at any given time. No other class or 5 stack can do that.
It’s a stupid notion to think that a solo player should be able to easily deal with a 5-man premade. That’s the most bs I’ve ever seen anyone actually decent would ever say.
5 Organized players working together vs 20 randoms
I say teamwork makes the dream work, no teamwork on that enemy team? No win for them! Sounds like a skill issue to me.
You actually aren’t reading. Sounds like a reading comprehension issue and sticking your head in the sand to me.
“I actually don’t want to play the game and would rather cry in the forums for a nerf than get good”
Sounds like you the whole time with how your arguments present itself.
Just ignore him, he’s living in his world.
I quite literally said I am not calling for a nerf. Reading comprehension is not your strength.