Canceling players progression will make people quit

Just doomsday thoughts like always :wink:

Well I just meant that the gear wasn’t nerfed - hence your considerable efforts in creating that gear are not lost. But yes, if you concentrated on only crafting and still have a 500 watermark, then you are taking a massive hit to your personal power.

But again, that gear will still be just as powerful once your level your expertise. So you efforts in crafting were not wasted in any way. It’s just that you won’t reap the full benefits until you level your expertise.

I don’t think I’m confusing it. They specifically said expertise is just a renaming of HWM. This is the quote from the post in the PTR forum:

“We’ve renamed High Water Mark to Expertise and now display the current Expertise level of each slot on your avatar in the inventory screen, so players can easily track their progress.”

Its being renamed. Just a change in name.

We’ve also renamed High Water Mark to Expertise

That is the most straighforward sentence that can ever exist. How can that mean anything else?

You can get 590 gear with the base stats cheap, but gear with the right perks (which makes the BIGGEST difference) are gonna cost you a liver and your first born. Which is actually pretty damn good.

Few thousand coins (which you got from leveling) will let you get shitty high GS gear that prevents you from beign one shotted in any content, but you still have a long way to get those with the right perks for what you want to use.

The current system actually gave you more options to get your gear. Want to craft it yourself? np, there, farm like a madman and you will get it. Like HWM mark? go for it, want to buy it? play TP investor, make money and buy it.

You HAVE the choice on how you want to get your stuff. After this system goes live, you either like HWM or gtfo.

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Aleši Aleši… ty jsi, ale trdlo… :slight_smile:
What about ppl who dont buy it, but craft it?
Why WM cannot grow by craft etc?
Do you know you can even drop higher GS and WM is unchanged?
Because way how this game works.

they never said it wouldn’t

they said the HWM is being replaced by the expertise system. its unknown and unsaid if the hwm will be grandfathered or not. However a customer service person says all will be reset, take that how you want to

They just see what they want to see or take stuff out of context and twist it to suit an agenda.

This game will still be played by the people. Who find it difficult to manage more than 6 abilities and auto attack. Actually I don’t think this will change much for the game. The Skill-Lets will still play this game pretending to be PvPers. Meanwhile the PvPers will either stay away or try and go back to games that focus and monetize PvP.

It says RENAMED not REPLACED. Like wtf. :man_facepalming:

Urazeni na sile nazoru nepridava.

Increasing WM by crafting is nonsense, it would be too OP considering you can target whatever slot you want.

Very few drops don’t increase your watermark (like 600 gs sword from Siren’s hand or some OPR legendary drops).

Guess AGS wants everyone to hit elite zones and once you have your WM up you can choose where to get your bis gear - via crafting, expeditions or PvP.

But you can target slot by new gypsy system to :slight_smile:

And those who crafted their 600gs gear??

Or those who bought them from the market and just played the game the way they enjoyed most?

This is incredibly stupid movement for any mmo, but even worse for this one, with an already terrible endgame gearing system. They just will change one tedious grind for another different one with even more steps in between.

When I look for 600gs item in the AH if I know it going to scale down to w/e my expertise is I simply wont buy it…what the point…lmao

That’s how this will go down.

the more detailed dev blog says it will be a new system

" So, we are completely revamping the system to address these concerns. This new and improved HWM system is called Expertise."

its currently unknown whether it will use HwM numbers or not, but customer service says all will be reset to 500

This is funny because if you have both you are the only one that is not affected by this change. ^^

1 day CD, cant farm the mats for it until CD is done, only 1 item per CD.

GL with that

What makes this significantly worse for players such as myself who aimed at crafting rather than HWM grinding in order to obtain gear is that we’ll take a huge hit to gear effectiveness, but that will cause our exclusion from things like Wars, because right now the reality is that guilds are kicking anyone who isn’t well geared in order to make wins more likely.

Having your gear effectiveness stripped away is a slap in the face quite frankly, and it’s an even bigger slap in the face to know all that time leveling up crafting is wasted. But to then be excluded from end game content due to all of this is just outrageous. It ruins one of the primary end game activities which is the factions fighting over territory, which is the only true end game in NW.

Nothing there says that it is being replaced. As far as I understand, the numbers remain but additional systems are being added that complement the existing HWM system. Nothing removed just renamed and added.

Also, customer service is the last place to get information from about new things. That’s why they have dev blogs and announcements (which logically supersedes anything and everything that customer service says)

Yeah that post is newer. But I find it suspect that 48 hours ago they called it a ‘rename’, and now it’s “New and Improved ™”.

Sounds like they’re trying to use some marketing lingo there to make you think there’s been some nice shiny new thing, when in fact it’s still just a rename. After all, they didn’t just code a whole new system into the game in the last 36 hours since the original post announcing it as a rename. :rofl:

thats what im worried about i saw the screenshots from customer service, but everyone always says they dont know what their talking about.