Especially since I think in OPR, when you build the resurrection tower, it prevents the opposing team from capping the flag until the tower is destroyed. Which would mean the code exists…just have the tower there and destroy it once the final capture point falls.
((I’ve never seen the “influence meter” change while the tower was up and the flag was uncontested by defenders.))
Looking at a video of how an exploiter gets in its my view that it was seen as impossible to get into the fort before the other points were capped so wasnt even thought of.
If there was no fort and just another cap point then yes. I wouldnt logically see any reason to connect A/B and C to the fort until they were capped/ So it just floats there. Its a basic logic trap that was undone by a glitch/exploited.
Also there is currently a simple player fix of buying barrels before the war starts and placing them at a certain point which has been seen to prevent the exploit.
Not saying AGS shouodnt do anything they most definitley should as ASAP but just giving some info that may help until they do,
I forgot to include that it is also possible to do in on war camps as well. Both sides needs to be looked at. I did not participate in the war but a fellow company member did. There were reports that players in our same faction were going into the warcamps and spawn camping.
This is causing a major distraught to the player base who play legitimately. Thank you.
Please stop changing the narrative. I am the leader of the company that lost WW in the OP post.
We had 50 top tier, fully geared PvPers against a team that didn’t even have more than 30 people slotted off the beginning. You were unable to even make it to points when we were playing to win. By the time a handful of us decided to attempt getting into the war camp to see if the rumors were true, the attacking army had ~15-20 disconnects. A lot of us, myself included, were just sitting inside the war camp without even fighting. In fact, by us getting stuck in the war camp, the attacking team was actually able to sneak out and start capping points. Us getting into your camp gave you a higher chance of actually winning. This victim mentality is incredible, especially considering it was MY company that paid for the attacking company to declare on us.
While I agree that no exploiting should be condoned, comparing a handful of players trying something new in a war that was over before it started, to 1 player abusing a mechanic to singehandedly win a war 1v50 is ridiculous. The attacking company got over 1,000,000 coins in revenue due to this bug - all the defending company got was 5 minutes of being astounded by the amount of issues this game has. Whether or not you got fortcamped on either side of the gates had 0 outcome on your likelihood of winning.
Using this at an attempt to conceal the fact that you are directly benefiting from this exploit in the form of huge economic benefit is very surprising to me. You claim that your company did not plan to abuse the exploit to win the profitable territory, yet many others say otherwise. However, unlike you I will not spin sob stories on the forums to try to disrupt the community. @DevonK Please keep in mind the severity of the consequences of the actions of both parties, and how many players were disproportionally effected. We have VOD’s of the attacking army having many disconnects and being unable to even make it out of the war camp well before the defending company attempted to get inside the war camp. Thank you!
Imagine admitting that you exploited into the enemy war camp.
@DevonK Both sides are at fault for exploiting. And this is what we allow for, 1-7 day bans for intentional use of exploits instead of permas.
You have one person to exploit into EF fort to cap and win while you have people exploiting into the war camp.
Look at the video, 47 seconds left until war was over which means these guys were also exploiting into the war camp much longer than this one person did to exploit into EF to cap the point.
The only obvious proof at this point is the person who went into EF and this guy who admitted to intentionally going into enemy war camp. But if anyone has proof of these other guys exploiting into the warcamp, it needs to be posted.
I have footage of my own as well as the open stream by the defending company showing well over 50-60% of their team inside the war camp for almost 28 minutes. Not to mention dialogue. It has been provided from both points of view. All names included. In fact, @TakeshiKovacs was inside the war camp which you can see from my clip posted previously.
I’m happy to address this with you. I understand you now want to defend yourself and you have every right to. I provided all details of the individual from the Syndicate faction to Devon directly, so please don’t think I’m only calling you out. Your VOD tells a different story about “By the time a handful of us decided to attempt getting into the war camp to see if the rumors were true,” when its well over 50% of your army, not to mention your open dialogue. My favorite part is when you are all discussing it and one individual says “Can we get banned for this?” another says “Yeah, but they can’t report us all!”. That’s an interesting mindset for “looking into rumors”.
We’ll continue, though. “While I agree that no exploiting should be condoned, comparing a handful of players trying something new in a war that was over before it started, to 1 player abusing a mechanic to singehandedly win a war 1v50 is ridiculous.” I agree, a win 1v50 is ridiculous. However your version of trying something new is exploiting. Understand that.
“Using this at an attempt to conceal the fact that you are directly benefiting from this exploit in the form of huge economic benefit is very surprising to me. You claim that your company did not plan to abuse the exploit to win the profitable territory, yet many others say otherwise. However, unlike you I will not spin sob stories on the forums to try to disrupt the community.” I’m happy to include that I gain zero benefit from this. I’m not a member of the winning company, and I gain very little if anything at all. You probably should have looked into that first. Especially when you bring the revenue into this. I’m not spinning any sob stories and you know it. You are trying to defend the fact that you think your conditional exploiting is okay and guess what? You got called out. You exploited, you admitted to it, and you think its okay because you were already winning? It doesn’t work that way.
I agree, you dont just “try it out” because obviously you’ve heard of the exploit. You intentionally chose to do the exploit. Bannable offense for sure.
I would never try anything out if it was against TOS.
Now I’ll make it a little bit easier for everyone to use.
Please click to 17:30. Listen for yourselves, see if it sounds like you were just “investigating rumors”. Continue watching for another 1:00-1:30, then skip to 19:15 where we hear “Can you get reported for this?” and the response was “They can’t report all of us”. Interesting stuff, no? Continue that from that clip for an additional 1:00. What do you see? Continue skipping around watching and listening. The proof is all right there in every way.
I don’t think I need to explain much more. There is zero remorse, the exploits used were not rumors and were known of from the start. And this “handful of people” is a hell of a lot more than @TakeshiKovacs is stating. This is from your teams VOD. And I should add, you can see the fort exploit at 44:45, which has previously been provided in a different thread.
Forums smear campaigns tend to be easier than winning in-game PvP, so I understand why this thread is how you choose to spend your time. I reiterate that going into an enemy war camp gives the attackers an advantage in terms of winning, and that being camped on either side of the gate doors is irrelevant. My company got the declare back on Windsward and we will be winning it legitimately in a day - because we don’t need to rely on cheating to win unlike the parties you are choosing to defend.
My company would be happy to give whatever company you’re in pointers on how to perform better in wars, so that you don’t feel the need to attack other longstanding El Dorado community members anonymously on the forums. I’m confident that the mods will handle our reports fairly.
@TakeshiKovacs There’s no reason to get so defensive. This is footage and dialogue of your team, which you can’t dispute. You can attempt to speak about war advantages and defend your superiority complex all you want. The team which you are stating doesn’t need cheats, cheated anyway. And you seem to be a little mixed up so I’ll clarify yet again, I also reported the fort exploit. Footage, name, everything.
Getting aggressive and bringing skill and pointers into this discussion doesn’t help your cause. There’s no need. You and I both know that I’m attacking no one, and now you feel this is the only way you can defend yourself, which I understand. But again, there’s no need. All of the proof is right here, and you can’t change that.
careful who you are listening to or investigating on this one, some of these people exploited/killed a server and then transferred away… only seems fair that they would then be exploited against so they know what it feels like