Change Ice Shower And Gravity Back?

**I have played New world about 2000 hours and I wanna leave a feedback because of the last update. Before the update you could counter Gravity well and İce shower skills with:

Great axe charge skill
Ice Gauntlet Entom
Rapier Riposte
Spear Skewer
Bow Evade Shot
Firestaff Burn Out
Blunderbuss Net Shot
Void Gauntlet Blade skill heavy attacks

You could run away with these weapons skills if you were not super stack together with 3-4 men.
And If you are good player you can hear someone throwing gravity well and you can easly run away with pressing dodge key one time before getting stuck in center of vortex. Now with this update gravity well and iceshower skills have no value. Enemy can dodge and run away without even using the skills I mentioned. I lost my willing to play this game. I was spear bow main player and meta did not change for spear like for months and I started to play great axe / war hammer and now this patch… Please change it back devs

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ice shower is usable.
weaker but usable. issue is all last in game changes makes super hard to get away from mele users after they close the gap.

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Only if they revert slow dodges and stam regen nerfs.

In fact i think regen nerf was needed. Not sure about slow dodges. But probably also could stay if we can get solustion for op meles:

  • homing
  • range

Imho all changes can stay if we make mele homing like it was before, or reduce range for some of mele weapons. If not, then “slow walk” for all ranges after all skills/auto attacks should go away.

There is something missing that would allow range builds to get away from bruiser if not ,then we need more mobility when attacking.

I still don’t believe this patch bro. It literally says stop play the game for bruisers. You have 0 impact there is not value of throwing vortex on 10 guys because they all can run away with dodge.

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No. The game feels way more balanced now and that is mainly because of the healing nerfs and the Ice Shower and Gravity Well changes.

Both Ice Shower and Gravity Well is still strong. Its just not insanely OP as it was before.

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I don’t agree. What do you mean by balanced man? You can even dodge damage of vortex before it blows. Also Ice shower you take big risk when using it as mage and then guys in ice shower simply dodges and runs away before you even use a ice speak. So does it feel like the game is balanced ?

I still would say ice shower is like the most lethal ability in the whole entire game

People still running g axe IG for a reason

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I mean what I wrote. The game is more balanced now than it was before. That does not mean the game is perfectly balanced… not even close, but these changes was one step in the right direction for sure. Personally I think they should rather rework both Ice Shower and Gravity Well into something more interesting (and still usefull). I think both those abilities are really bad design. Ice Shower still feels like a death sentence to get hit by if you are running a light melee build. If anything it is still too strong.

Some mage builds with Fire Staff and Ice Gauntlet feels pretty busted now in the arena. I would not necessarily say it is OP yet, but In terms of dps builds I feel that is the biggest outliner at the moment.

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100% true, vortex feels so useless

dmg nerfed
heal nerfed
does no dmg bcs everyone can dodge the explosion

Game is definately more balanced, just need to revert some nerfs which don’t fit with the new combat flow and we’re golden

Hey there! We appreciate the feedback. Thank you to everyone contributing to this discussion as well. This helps the Development team find the perfect balance. I will go ahead and pass this along to the team for review.

Here’s a crazy idea, replace them with some other abilities that make more sense and are not hard to balance…

That was the game for the majority of the builds, and now when they finally nerfed the GA and put in line with others you guys are crying hard about it. Deal with it, you werent as good as you thought you just used the op meta weapons.

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I’ve said it many times and I’ll say it again; if you remove Grav well from GA it is a 100% useless weapon. Grav well isn’t 100% useless atm but it’s very close. I can live with the damage/healing nerf on the Insat GW perk, but removing nearly all the utility on it was way too much

And as much as I hate IG, ice shower should also be reverted

You could not couynter gravity with Firestaff Burn Out. Animation of burn out takes long. In fact if mage cast burn out and after that bruiser throws gravity well - it will stop burn out and put it into cd.

You dont play wars right?
Grav is still one of the most powerfull spells in large scall pvp.

Guys, I am pretty sure many players that think grav and ice showers nerf was necesseray are probably players in other classes and there is literally 0 empati here. The grav already got a nerf with 25% recuced burst damage and 50% reduced health perk and everyone was like okay with it. But If you are gonna make it dodgeable in grav why grav got damage and heal perk nerf ? Now people don’t even get burst damage of vortex because they run away with just dodging and they dont even need to use skills that counters grav and ice anymore. You can even dodge the burst damage of vortex now by dodging in the righg time If you are avarage player.
I also read a comment about there is a reason for people still play GA / WH and IG. Of course there is a reason for them to do so. Last 9 months meta was always available for GA / WH and IG so people bought bis items during this long period. Now you can’t expect people start play other weapons in one day because they have spent a lot of golds and time to upgrade and find right pieces. In this situation players either quit New World or still play their class If they dont have enough gold or items for other classes.
I don’t know man seriosly I just feel sad for New World game losing players. I liked this game’s pvp so much and I always had a hope about this game would have 50k 100k+ players one day but it looks like I am gonna either quit game or start play in another build but I got so demotivated of the last patch. Can you make empati and put yourself in my place and think how would you feel? I have 8 bis items for GA WH and I feel like great axe is now left click weapon and a grav you throw has no value even if you catch 10 enemy players in wars bcs they run away by dodging it. Warhammer lost its effect too because the weapon is slow and it literally says stun is coming and you can dodge it whenever you are. What I am saying is the game does not require player skills anymore. There was value of dodging grav and shower before the patch. Now its as easy as pie.

Not sure about reverting it back. Both Gravity Well and Ice Shower were insanely strong abilities before (imo too strong) and everyone wanted them to be changed/tweaked. Maybe the most balanced move would be to make roots not dodgeable and if it’s needed increase both spells root duration from 1sec to 1.5sec. This would give time for good players to followup with other CC’s/dmg but wont hardlock you for 3/4secs like before. Also, if root is reverted, dont forget to nerf scream again… We dont want another VG meta here… :wink:

Given the state of slowing dodges at the moment I wouldn’t mind seeing it changed to a slow.