We might have 5 healers on a team once every 100 games, and might have 5 players who are standing in them sustained once every 20 games.
Most of the OPR games on our server consist of 15-18 ranged players (dex, int, or focus) per side. Hardly anyone’s fighting on point.
Your meta is wildly different from other servers and they shouldn’t be making a huge change based on it.
Alright. Here we go.
The problem with healing and disease is the heal buff to disease availability ratio.
There’s more ways to stack heal buffs than there are to stack disease. The counter to heals is extremely ineffective.
Give lifestaff a higher base damage so that focus scaling into it’s base damage yields higher rewards.
So in turn this makes all heals stronger right? BARE WITH ME. If you take the heals and multiply it by 2 due to doubled weapon damage and heals being based off weapon damage of the LS then take all of its buff healing outputs and cut them in half you essentially have the same heal.
For example: fictitious numbers just for reference.
Base weapon damage after focus scaling = 1500
Amount of buffs available to buff healing = 200%
100% weapon damage on Divine Embrace = 1500 Base Heal
Divine Embrace + Heal Buffs = 4500 (200% Bonus means 3x)
Equipload = Light x 1.3
Total heal = 5850 Divine Embrace
Disease affects that 200% heal buff.
100% Disease on a player cancels out 100% of the 200% bonus healing and makes a 5850 Divine Embrace Heal turn into a 3k heal before equipload is factored in. This equals a 3900 Divine Embrace Heal.
Essentially 100% disease stacked on the attacker side is only a 33% heal Nerf in total. This is the issue with healing. The counter to it is not a counter. It’s a wet paper bag in a tornado.
If you double the base heal and cut the bonuses in half you have a better level of play with disease.
3k weapon damage (oh my god, healers will actually do damage? LA heals double as a bi-product)
LS weapon Damage = 3k
Available heal buff = 100%
Base Divine Embrace = 3k
Divine Embrace + Heal Buffs = 6k
Equip load = Light x 1.3
Total heal = 7800 Divine Embrace
100% disease stacked on a player makes the 7800 Divine Embrace Heal = 3900
If you go to the cap and mitigate 100% heal buff and disease to the actual extent of disease applying and cap it at 50% then you end up with an 1800 Divine Embrace Heal. Good luck diseasing for 150% though.
If you Disease someone for 150% currently with previous numbers you still end up with 2925 Divine Embrace Heal compared to the 1800.
200% disease = 1800 heal due to cancelling heal buffs and now youre at base heals.
That or they need to make plagued multiplicative.
A 35% disease effectively reduces total heals by 35%.
Plain and simple. 1300 tick on SG is now 845.
Also… Plagued perks only apply when they’re below half health…
It’s all about countering the healers and playing as a team instead of farming damage. You need bruisers and few light melee chasing healers for quick burst + maybe a musket guy 1 to 2 bows max and a mage. Some bb guy too. You can flank and bother them heavily + bursting people on the side of the clump. In this fast paced playstile we have atm burst damage it’s nuts and kills inside heals but when everyone does aoe damage in the clump for score = nothing happens.
So with July Perk Patch coming, I am sure they will buff Disease perks.
Hot Tip: They stated that weapon perks when place on a weapon will be greatly improved, so as such people should start looking at getting VGs with putrifying scream and BBs with plagued splitting grenade on the weapon themselves, as this will probably be BiS after July.
“Hehe I’m a healer and I think we should be nerfed because I am so knowledgable about healing an-”
Nobody is fooled dex player.
@Zentaragi
What we at now?? They want us nerfed again, they want DE nerfed, they want self heal nerf, oh right they want us banned from 3v3. This month is killing my lungs from laughing xD
Did you see the post where some guy was trying to suggest if you ‘spam’ your abilities on rapier your cooldowns should incrementally get worse for it? Yeah how dare you riposte evade fleche. Here’s a 40 second cooldown.
Heh, 40 seconds? these people can’t counter one in 3s what makes them think they’ll improve in 40?
I respect this person right here for actually stinking up for healers. The amount of time i put into a healer for it for be run into the ground is sickening inhate how AGS run things they are just slow lazy people. Sorry but its true
The purpose of the Life Staff adjustments are to move some of the healing power into the light and medium equip loads while reducing some of the power of the tanky healing builds. We also want to make it easier to properly target and heal the correct group members.
Would ya look at that. Kippp has been complaining about healers since Nov '21
Now we wait patiently for these folks to find an excuse to claim Splash of Light is dominating.
There’s also Putrefying Scream.
Yea, its only -29% anti-healing now at 625. It use to be much stronger.
They could easily inverse the life staff abilities and make a dark staff. For good reason you could not equip them both at the same time. This would be a devastating weapon! <3
Or perhaps make an inverse gem, that does the same thing. I’m sure they would have to tweak the numbers down by a large % or it would be rediculous. But this would be relatively easy over adding a brand new weapon D:
Corrupted anti heals! 
Now that i’m thinking about it would make sense as a secondary weapon after all if it was tweaked properly for damage numbers,
Just shower thoughts.
A corrupted staff…? 
Precisely! <3
They need to un-get-rid-of-it.
It was the most used AoE-antiheal skill in the game at a time when tons of people were complaining about how hard it was to kill healers. Then they got rid of it and buffed the output for light healers doing AoE heals.
Before I used to tell people “learn about rends, ccs and antiheal” so you can kill healers.
Now? Yeah… Just leave them to the blunderbois it’s not worth it. They made them able to avoid all damage during roots, got rid of the only thing that negated sacred ground, and nerfed everyone’s stamina regen (except for light armor guys with rapier who have multiple stamina generation methods) so you can still be kited forever and not get the use of your rends.
They don’t need to nerf the life staff, but they do need to buff or un-nerf the tools we used for killing healers.
Reverting the change to Nullifying Oblivion is #1
Dodging in Roots to take 0 damage, during the skills that were supposed to create a damage window is #2
Get rid of this dumb crap and if roots are still too powerful (they wont be), give them a longer cooldown.
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