Well don’t waste your time with that guy he is clearly ags number one fanboy… not worth anyone time…
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The model and overall ideal was to forge your own path.
People have 100’s of thousands of umbral and all the dungeon drops for a long time now and yet they still play. Rich people that bought orbs finished mutations the first few days and are still playing. Imagine that. You live under an old school archaic design method that people were tired of 15 years ago.
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Thanks for being very thorough with your reply. Appreciate it. I get your point and understand your view as well.
At the same time would you disagree with my point that people that own ever fall and windward are just getting too much money?
I mean the way I see it. The value of gold in-game is next to nothing if this keeps up.
BIS items should be expensive but not worth in millions since it breaks the economic model. Now I get that snowflakes need to grind and make the money. Nothing against that. But now we are in a situation where people who have bad skills who zerg like idiots are winning wars purely on the strength of bis gears. Since they either used bots, dupes or owned everfall and windward to make a shit load of money without any real work.
I trade and make my money. I have over 4 mill so I know where you are coming from. If your smart abt it you can make shit load in money.
But the game’s design should divide the money into all regions and not just 2 (windward and everfall). Causing the economic imbalance. Companies that own other regions should also make money.
And shell companies should not exist. Bcz of the tax dupe that amazon itself created. WW and EF make 10 million. Whereas other regions struggle to reach 200k profit. That’s an imbalance in game design. If ww and everfall made 2 mil and others made 500k that would have been fine. Double the income due to being center cities is fine. But 5-10 mill vs 200k at other places is not.
This is causing a big power shift in terms of money in the hands of a few. That is what I’m against.
Also stuff like skinning luck and other gathering luck should not exist on crafted gear. That’s a bad game design. Like whats the point of all the gathering sets then? Makes them worth zero. Its not RNG just bad game design at this point.
They also need to have value since they are rare sets that need to be farmed.
Also, devs are honestly just timegating the game instead of making actual content for the game. Like the devs designed the game till level 30. Then copy pasted the entire code. Just 10xed all the values and made them end game bosses.
I mean hello add some dragons cyclops and other mystical monsters. Why is level 25 mob and level 66 mob the same with just difference in health and size.
Remembers the myrkyard fiasco when they 100xed the health and damage of bosses. Making them one-shot anything.
Devs should be forced to make proper content. PvP and PvE both. Right now all they are doing is time gating stuff again and again just so people keep repeating the same stupid stuff.
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OBJECTION!
When people cried about ganks till they turned off forced pvp destroyed alot of the expectation.
The people who destroyed my path by killing pvp owe me a new path.
The streamers who gave half brain dead reviews owes me a fucking gaming community after pushing propaganda for from BETA till RELEASE.
They didnt give the giving tree a chance to even fucking grow before cutting off her branches and turning her into a boat.
Giving tree shouldve used these rose birch branches and spanked those children. Instead of what we all witnessed.
Self mutilation to appease a bunch of children that dont know what they want till it’s gone.
You wanna talk actually having hope and getting to live your destiny?
Shut down channels like lazypeon who flip flop opinions based on swaying viewership.
They stole my community from me. I will be damned if i let it happen again amongst the gamers i play with. I will contain it by force if i have to. Which has been working enough to save my server.
Not everyone else. So im sorry.
I was one of the few to complete mutations m10 before you actually needed 625 cause of these hybrid builds.
Back when you could pretty much walkthrough genesis. Get two loots from jumping the taxidus wall. And you could always make time.
Those were the good ol days.
Dynasty was great too at release. Gave you a taste of smth new but after a few void explosions its pretty much the same content.
Did pvpers ask for this?
It was the people begging the game switch gears.
You can pvp rich( solely play opr and war) but you will never be pve unless you invest in the content the community ssked for.
Did i personally think ags would invest literally thousands of hours making isabella a primary boss with her own follow up story line? After dynasty? Hell no.
Am i mad? No.
Just disappointed we pushed so far away from pvp i had to play opr for over 6 months. Cause im tired of war and invasions.
If they pushed for pvp content. Duels. And wars.
Instead of expecting a fleshed out final fantasy sequel. I would be happy and youd never see me on the forum. Cause id be fighting in arenas all day.
You think it is fair the pvp audience has to worry about nerfs. No updates on our content and costant pvp restraints while given what? Some exp? Alil bit of weapon exp if flagged? Alil bit more drop chance?
The only fun thing about flagging up now is when you can compete over event items.
There isnt enough pvp comtent in itself to sustain a dedicated pvp crowd. There are too many ppl pulling the game apart.
I see where you coming from too my good man.
Yes.
I am not being a contrarian when i say that tho.
Basically, you have a fair point the rest of the town reap the lowest profits.
Altho you call it a design flaw from inequity. It is actually how it always been and probably will be. Cause they are the best new player friendly towns.
New players dont hang out at ebonscale just to see the sights. They going where it is most recognizable and easiest to traverse.
So i understand it is annoying to have very few people making millions. But what you gonna do? Youd have to convince new players to turn a new location into their home base.
Which would take months in itself.
Only for the people who dont need it. Like us.
When you look at other crafters who are still making gear they spending dam near 40k to 80k on these rolls a day depending on what they got in their inv atm.
Good thing its legal to sell your m10 last 5 min spot. People makin their money back.
They only winning wars because they carried.
You fight any of those pepple 1 by 1 or 1 v 5 you will deck them. And i bet youll feel pretty good about it.
But back to your point.
How do you stop this snowballing effect ?
It happens in almost every mmo one crowd exploited enough to overall win at the economy and theyll just phase back into the community like nothing happen.
What are we supposed to do?
Im not gonna dox them.
Emphasis on smart.
Emphasis on being fiscally responssible.
Also good on you mate for knowing how to save instead of draining your money into theabyss like our friend from earlier. He will never recover once he realixes he didnt need to make BIS to get rich.
Lol
None of the other territories are new player friendly tbh. They tried to fix it but it failed.
Not saying everyone wants to be the same. But everyone wants to feel like they are relatable in a degree.
I agree.
But also i cant agree to deleting companies just for the sake of replenishing capitol.
So how do you fedl about the current hierarchy? Do you feel middle class or in the 1%?
Do you not want to be part of the problem so you spend half your gold weekly on giving new players BIS?
Do you give away most your assets at the end of the month to push the community an inch closer to the billionaires with 10 accounts on max gold using dead companies as their own private banks?
And how many of those " new " players arent just refreshed dupers who jumped ship before the ban?
You ever heard of the fake homeless people? Now we have fake new players.
The day they get rid of these stupid ass durability perks on tools ill be happy.
Who even thought it was a good idea to even put low dura on your tools in the first place? Why are we worried about fixing smth we need to wear? That is bad game design.
It is like opr items having a weight limit.
Why am i playing a game mode with items i cant keep. And no real exp. But i can get slowed by chopping trees? In opr? What the actual F?
I can agree to that.
Idk why we even need to repair them anymore. Just a useless money sink tbh. But for reality sakei understand everything you wear has to break down i supoose?
You gonna see a 600 skinning perk on your knife in market for 20k . watch 
ppl are dying for these 600 crafted tools.
Thats why i said the pve and story driven crowd dont understand mutations ie an artificial place holder for pvp content.
Yall not making us do anything but wait. And then what? Craft some more? Then what?
Why craft when paying ppl the materials and money to make our gear anyway?
Unless it’s the actual BEST , then most pplwont even know what they looking at.
I guarantee you homie.
Ask a random ender gamer what their favorite set is and itll be void or smth with high elemtal ressist.
I love my heavy oric set. Has piterally everything i need.
And the kicker? There is a hybrid heavy build that keeps you at 2k phys and elemental or 3k phys if you drop the shards.
Figuring out the build and perks i wsnt on them besides resilient? Worth all the money in the world.
And being able to see consistently 2k damage as a tank using s and s while full con?
Man. You wanna talk about things that get me rock hard?
Those 3k crits with bleed damage and ny plagued strikes murderkng healers in opr even in their heavy gear.
But i digress
Are you guys asking for a server reset to lower cost of admission into crafting? Lower the arcana etc?
Been saying this exact shyt since launch.
Where are all the got damn dragons??? Crocodiles? We camt get a big ass flying crocodiles??? Somewhere somehow we need actual scary content. Cause they 5v1 boss battles get pretty stale.
I want two dragons as a boss fight. Like in dynasty the two dogs?
Or mobs that flsnk around mini boss? Why arent we designated more bosses with summons? Is that really so much to ask? A dragin that can summon a dragon that can summon a dragon.
Like an artificial hydra.
Those were some DARK days.
I still remembering leading zergs and thorpe running head first at me with the charge scaring the shyt out of me.
Cause remember they didnt buff just the health and damage. They removed your sneak function by making monster ai vision larger.
So you cant even sneak behind enemies like you used to. You can do solo runs but now you are almost guaranteed to die once. Even if you are perfectly time everything somehow the ai can track you around corners without even seeing you.
Bad game design. Not enoughways to solo content anymore.
Yes sir and exactly why they gave the game an identity crisis.
Cause if they focused on just one aspect of the game the game would get bigger.
But because they trynna make sure everyone is happy and heard. Now no one is happy.
We on our last legs here.
I can tell. You can tell. We all see the pain of confusion. To me it isdisgust for what they couldve had but threw it away.
I digress though. They didnt throw it away. Bad representationn scared them into conforming. And that killed the game, to me.
But when do you think the game washurt the worse?
This has got to be the dumbest post yet.
Chance for item drop is 0.0000001%
Guess I’m not going to try ‘hard enough’.
When is hard enough too hard? When is it too much to hold anyone’s interest? When is it too much to bother?
I think you’re confused by the idea behind risk vs reward.
Tell me sir.
How exactly am i confused?
When you have given everything and still havent won that is the art of gambling and rng. I see nothibg wrong with it.
You either want it bad enough or makibg excuses. How easy should the game be to make sure everyone get their blanket and pacifier at night?
Gonna read them bed time stories next?
This is why people say mmos are dumb. As soon as you get challenged you cry for help or look for a guide.
Don’t even start arguing with this guy he takes this game like real life he compares going to a casino with crafting luck, how dumb is that lmao at least if you go to a casino you don’t have requirements to bid you just need money you don’t have to farm asmo to go to a casino, crazy grind plus crazy small possibility of getting something make the game boring asf after you put a lot of time on trying to get something, then he says I do crafting to get rich, I never said this lol of course you can make money in nw if you focus on the market etc still that’s not going to make you able to get the items you want lol but yeah the system for him is perfect all crafter sharing their opinion are wrong based on his rng real life game.
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True.
With respect to crafting, I just need 3 things from them. I’m cool with the rng part of it. But right now it’s generating too much crap.
I just want them to remove skinning, mining, logging, harvesting, durability from crafting perk pool. Everything else stays the same.
U have dedicated mining, logging, and harvesting sets. Let people use that.
Make it such that ancient, lost, beast, angry earth and corrupted ward show up in dropped dungeon gear. So u get pve gear by doing pve stuff.
U get pvp gear from doing pvp stuff. Oprs wars arenas and PVP reward tracks.
If u use dungeon items to craft gear it gets the corresponding ward. So if u craft genesis gear u get angry earth ward gear etc.
that’s all I need from the devs. No other complaints. I am cool with rng but it should not be stupid rng when u get skinning luck and durability legendary items 
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This right here is a good idea will increase the chances on getting what you want, maybe add the possibility to make you ítems have two perks and third perk has to be random and people will start to feel good about rolling their gear as a crafter
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man id be fine with just 2 perks with no guarantee of a lego.
at least that way i could make sets and try out new builds wtihout rnging an arm or a leg and not depending on other peoples con dumpster gear being put on the market.
even decent enough ward pieces + weapon skills to back fill for dungeons
luck gear for trophy runs that isnt just voidbent
not being forced to random roll 2 perks would be a great boon for custom order crafting.
you would still need to random roll or farm for 3 perk legos though
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if u are able to fix two perks then its too easy. Everyone will have bis gear in 24hrs. Thats not the right solution.
@Porchse is saying the same thing. And he is right about that to an extent. If the grind is too easy makes the game pointless.
U still need to craft 1 piece 300 times for bis items. Thats a must otherwise no point to the game. But u should not need 10000 crafts for 1 bis that’s a broken system.
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dude… You seriously just contradicted yourself in your reply.
I’m done with this thread. The idiocy is rife with this one.
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The fact you came here and said absolutely nothing is not only bold but almost slightly impressive.
There was no take away from you expressing your inside thoughts. Nothing has changed and you wasted my time @ing me thinking low iq insults is funny. Dont @ me again with this toxic bs.
You played yourself on that one. Goodluck.
Facts
agreed.
Idk about broken system tho.
Im pretty sure you know how koreans treat rng and you already know how i feel about black desert
might as well stop with this one bro, she literally tried using her kid as an example of people learning new things talking about the lack of experience of them…lord knows a multi BILLION dollar company can’t afford REAL developers and use these others as back ground development. She literally compared her daughter and her to a multi billion dollar company and thought it was correct BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, let it go bro. She’s cool with a 60% finished product. Hate to see if she has a 60% toilet seat or a 60% car…or hell, what not dressing her daughter 60% of the way and send her to school…I mean, she’s digging NW and it’s not full game BS so why not?
We want a way to craft BIS gear for ourselves not to sell for profit. Could easily implement a system where we have to work for the ability to craft the gear we want. Other people that dont want to craft can buy the over priced stuff that someone else has wasted their time rolling for.
ESO does this well, you put time into crafting and you can craft the sets you want with no RNG, you can even sell those sets if you want because they have made a system that is rewarding.
Can even get the sets from Dungeons and PvP so it caters to all players, crafters, Pvp and PvE and the BIS sets still have value.
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Even bad legendaries sell for 20 to 30k per piece depending on perks.
The absolure worse net you 5 or 10k but you arent counting pennies here.
So guarantee 1 perk and rest are rng?
Im not sure about eso crafting.
But it sounds like they expect players to enjoy the content and longevity not from building your characters slowly but more invested in the lore/story, mindset of the gamers?
Mmos like eso sound more life skill friendly. Not pvp centered.
Crafting is one of the hurdles to get good pvp gear. So i understans your frustration cause the only good content has a steep enftry cost.
But i think the pay off is worth it.
Youve never had a good rng moment playing new world? None? Zero?
Nothing? No event drops? No funny encounters?
Youve alwaysxbeen disappinted by new world crafting basically?
i still wonder why i invested into furnishing. still hasn’t paid off at all.
not the guy but you have a way better chance of getting something useful farming m10 gens for bis. and not just the named items.
fact that it has resil in its perk pools makes it a far better chance for good legos.
iv gotten 1 bis and 1 retroactive bis so far and it was crafted by some one else for me.
lego heavy pants with str, insatiable grav well, shirking fort and resil.
and a great axe with refreshing move, thwarting strikes and mortal power which is now going to be mortal empower from what i understand.
i gave that great axe to a friend for free basically.
the dopamine rush from those two was NOT worth the farming and cool downs required to roll them. and defo not worth the several hundreds of dumpster gear iv also generated with little to no value.
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Don’t know what server you are on but bad legendaries on my server are selling for as low as 100 gold sometimes so it’s really not worth the hassle. I would rather be able craft bind on pick up and choose perk pools for example I can choose to have a random spear perk, then a random defensive perk like resilient and freedom etc then 3rd perk can be random so at least you have some chance of getting something useful.
PvP is very competitive in eso and build variety is vast partly because of the class system but also due to the amount of pre made sets in the game that require lots of time to be able to craft or the ability to craft your own good sets with a bit of time and effort. You can build good competitive sets for a reasonable or you can grind for them through pvp or pve
Throughout my time playing in the beta and since launch and playing almost everyday since launch I haven’t gotten a single piece of bis gear from crafting, pvp or random world or chest drops. Only stuff I have is named drops from expeditions which aren’t hard to get
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