Death of a Game: New World

well my big question is this game MUST DIE : 1: to be reborn! or
2: Die and just be a history in mmo timeline

Evidence and outline the largest contribution factors behind the death of NEW WOLRD
AGS lacked proper MMO exp and developers
Content desing/ offering has no longevity and is not competitive.
Offers nothing innovative nor other otherworldly worthy of the Amazon name
Hobble too ealry to launch.
Displayed a severe lack of market and competitor research
Sheer scale of the failure, etc etc…( from geologie_Nerdslayer)

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I think 98% of it’s playerbase being gone is already a big enough wake up call and slap in the face. They’re still hiring new developers and they changed lead game designer.

This game can only die completely or the playerbase stays committed and it slowly metabolizes into an amazing game that I personally think they can do.

I don’t think there is a reborn chance. They’ve dropped the ball so many times that if it tried to do a FFXIV(?) Rebirth nobody would come back imo. People are only here for the potential. A rebirth would shake the foundation of hope.

I think we should stay hopeful and let them do their job.

  • New Lead
  • More Dev’s
  • Server specialists
  • Gamer enthusiast based designers

They have and are acquiring the pieces required to turn it around. Hang in there. :grin:

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People always bring FF14 and ESO as examples of reworks that worked out in the end. What has to be emphasized is that the well-established gaming companies behind those games had IPs to save.

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Exactly. New World doesn’t have a franchise fanbase to lean on for a rebirth.

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FF14 is apart of a series that’s 35 years old. And ESO is apart of a series that’s 28 years old.
New world is 7 months old for fucks sake.

AGS deserves some credit regardless. Unlike Crucible where they tried & gave up scrapping the project. They’ve pushing on ahead little by little. Over time this mmorpg will get far better than the cluster fuck that it has in its current infant stage.

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I don’t think crucible ever peaked over 100k either.

Amazon Games management should watch this video immediately before another bad decision about the game’ s future direction.

I fully agree with what is exposed in the video. 10/10

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It does not have a franchise fanbase, but it does have a pretty huge fanbase that belives in the potential of this game. In my experience that is what most people mention about New World when they talk about the game… it’s potential.

It is true though. The game has huge potential, however to live up to that potential I believe it needs a lot of changes and improvements, also to the core of the game. Which is no easy task to do while simultaneously maintaining a live version of the game.

I think that a rebirth of New World is 100% possible… and perhaps the best (and only?) solution after all.

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Rebirth is referencing a shutdown and massive game overhaul without live servers.

I would play it again if it shutdown and reopened, but I can’t speak for the others.

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It’s suicide for New World to try a realm reborn. Just because it worked on some games doesn’t mean all games will have the same outcome. It’s better that AGS improves little by little.

And honestly that YTber in particular says ā€œDeath of a gameā€ about a couple different games that aren’t even dead. Especially HOTS since I still find matches practically every day. That Channel I usually skip.

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A number of MMOs had a rough first year and then turned it around. Think ESO and Albion Online are 2 recent examples.

New World should be able to turn it around. The world, look and feel are all top notch. Number of other aspects are very good.

To me the main issues that I haven’t seen enough headway relate to combat, especially in PvP. Still so much desynch and other issues. And haven’t seen any indications that they have any clue on how to properly balance while keeping combat interesting, depth/tactics. PvE suffers as well but obviously to a lesser extent. After this area end-game balance is a big one.

Just focusing on expeditions is a short-term ā€˜fix’ to keep some players playing, but long-term they still have a lot of work to do.

ESO had a number of mechanics issues but they got most fixed and so their quest/story base then flourished, along with other PvE areas. They never really got RvR/PvP to work as they’d like but it is mainly a PvE game so that didn’t matter as much. Albion Online just needed to balance things and add a little more for their open world PvP and what not. They did and it took off for a few years. It is a simpler MMO being 2 and 1/2 D so it has faded but their devs understood end-game balance, risk v reward, etc…

IMO, NW will not really ever recover. It will go on for a few years, mainly as a PvE game, then fold. This is because I don’t think their engine, or their ability to modify/use it, is up to the task. Thus they can’t really ever have a ā€˜complete game’.

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Are you mad I’m still having fun and find cool things to do (and do over) every day from day one of alpha?

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They cannot turn this trainwreck around. It’s impossible. The game has a bad reputation, AGS has a bad reputation, the basis of the game is bad. You cannot turn all these bads into goods.

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The video left a ton of important factors out. The devs have plenty of feedback from the forums since Beta I’ve seen to act on.

I dont think the cc logged many hours post launch of the game based on their perspective.

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hey now atleast one of the orginal dev team had exp on mmorpgs, sure the rest didnt, atleast they worked on games. Sure not mmmorpgs but games and the project lead had never worked on a game before and has now quit for family time. Wait was i trying to inspire you now atleast it makes sense right lol

The guy in the video just admitted he has no idea what mmos the devs played.

He also uses alot of factless opinions.

Uh.
I dont even know where to begin with this.

Basically the video sucked and new world is a good game.

You can share a negative opinion and keep beating a dead horse but the game is just getting started with pvp.

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Points in the video are 100% right.
If they actually trying to make things right and won’t give this game up, AGS should consider:

  1. Hire more developers that have good experience on some good mmorpgs
  2. Don’t ever change something that no one ask
  3. Don’t ninja patch anything
  4. Add more time and money to the game
  5. Do more marketing/publishing to attract players (new or old)

Lots of things AGS must do actually but I just couldn’t write them all because it’s too much lol

But, I really really want this game to succeed. New franchise you must retain all the playerbase so listen to us

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Seems like less of a question and more of a statement :stuck_out_tongue:

The game can carry on. Only thing that need to be changed for this to happen is fire the one behind decisions. I don’t blame devs. Coding is the same thing to a game as to a website, the only thing different is the decision of what is shown to the public.

Who cares what cars you have driven dose that mean you can build one if your not a mechanic your gonna fail and the car will fall apart. Also i played all 3 betas the open beta as well and can tell you the video is pretty spot on. They have been given so much feed back its crazy and choosen to listen to the wrong feedback more often then not.

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