Its one step for amazon but a massive step for the Community. I Hope everyone Shared the Word that they heared us.
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These changes are great. They even may be a step too far, but damn they are indeed good.
When the pain of staying is greater than the pain of leaving… it’s time to move on.
Time gates are cancer and don’t respect players’ limited time to have fun. This is overcome by vast content and not making players do the same limited tasks day-over-day for months on end. Busy doing new stuff instead of “the same shit different day”.
Those who exploited AGS’ incompetence get to keep their ill gotten gains. They will dominate.
The lies were spoiled before they ever left AGS’ lips.
Tonight I liquidated my stash. I gave it all away then deleted my character. I spent several hundred dollars buying all the cosmetics. I can no longer pay to fund their incompetence and disrespect of my time. The fact that they make poor decisions and then have to bend to change their decisions shows a very high level of incompetence.
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Time gates are not cancer. Why would you want to get everything done in a week for example ?
Too little too late, a ton of people have quit based on the initial announcement, and wont be coming back regardless of whatever damage control they try now.
Time gates are cancerous, they are artificial methods to try and stretch out content long past what it should last…
They are and AGS’ newest implementations to come are the metastasis of the cancer. You can’t see it… first you’ll feel it, it just won’t feel right. Then you’ll ponder on it. Depending on your deductive reasoning capabilities, sooner or later you’ll see it.
People play games for fun. Grinding is not fun. Players who think that hard grinding is an intrinsic part of MMOs have swallowed the BS gaming companies want them to believe.
New World was sold as a “play your way” vision. Turns out you have to play how they want you to play… what they think should be fun.
Grinding is needed for any MMO. It’s part of chasing the carrot.
There has to be a correct balance for it though. If it’s too much, it doesn’t feel worth it.
But they can’t give us the bis equipment just like that either. Or people would get bored fast.
You said it eloquently… chasing the carrot. The only carrot should be fun. You don’t chase fun, you have it.
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Grinding can be fun too. Doing dungeons or other content to get better equipment should be fun. It’s playing the game.
It’s what all MMos do. I don’t see the difference. The issue is finding the right balance.
Doing the dungeons is the fun. The grind is layered to make you work for the fun… say tuning orbs, minimum GS to be successful in the dungeon, only being able to do the dungeon every X amount of hours, having 4 other players who can hold their own in the dungeon, loot drop tables with 1% chance of success…
A fresh ding player will have expertise of 500 on every item. If they obtain every single orb every day (30min - 1h per orb, say 45min on average) this will take around 5-5h30 per day play time. for 50 days. so around 275 hours from gypsum alone, providing they are able to get in to dungeon groups as a 500 ilvl fresh ding (yeah… this one aint happening)
Now as an additional system alongside the current one this would be fine however they have “slightly reduced” the drop rates from elite POIs and “slightly reduced” the chance of them giving you an upgrade. This “slight reduction” appears to be arouind 90% however we have no actual information from AGS regarding the raw numbers - plus these items are completely random and could well just improve a watermark for a weapon you have never even equipped.
My concern with this is that we will go from everyone logging in, running elite POI loop, logging off, repeat to everyone logging in, running gypsum loop, logging out. The system requires so much time to optimally complete that you basically have no time left to just play the damn game. Constantly jumping through hoops that AGS have set out rather than actually engaging with the content that you want to.
As for the “you still get gypsum for x, stop complaining” people - if you are aiming this at someone who exclusively wishes to engage with one aspect of the game, allowing them to obtain one gypsum orb per day this would result in it taking essentially one full year to maximise the expertise for your gear, jewellery and weapons.
This brings it on to the next point - the game was pushed as being a completely classless MMO where you could change your role by swapping to a different weapon and changing your gear around with multiple valid routes to obtain gear. The actual result is that unless you spend every minute of your time in the game becoming hyper specialised in one specific role, pumping every resource you get into rolling gear, all of your time jumping through hoops and ignore everything else that you actually ENJOY doing with that gear you might, just might be “done” before the next content patch drops. If youre lucky. Then with their heavy handed balancce changes god forbid if you want to use a different weapon sometimes… you know, like the game was intended to be played.
tldr - AGS’ way of balancing seems to be to put 2 1lb weights on one side of the scale for a month, move those weights to the other side of the scale for another month and going “look guys, on average its balanced!!”
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I play for fun. A time gate won’t ruin my fun killing stuff in elite zones or dungeons. Won’t ruin my pvp fun in outpost rush. I don’t need the best gear for 1 week to do so. I have a lot of gold and high water mark by doing what I like in my spare time after work.
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No anything pre-patch will retain its GS and matching Expertise power.
he did.
Quite honestly… Games changes I understand that. The water maker stuff I totally get it if you put in the time to get as well as the crafting its a big middle finger from amazon gaming.
But I can deal with that to be honest. The one thing I have a problem with is AGS reporting system. Disagree with a claim holding company, while never cussing nor violating there terms of service that AGS list you get mass reported while being called every name in the book and your banned for several days if not permanently, while never violating the terms of serves but the company members that violented the terms of service get no ban… Its a bully system.
That’s just bad mechanics and bad AI… However we see what Amazon.com does it bullies all other retailers out of business… sears macy’s jcpenny… in 2008 Amazon destroy the book industry now we have aduible.com a Amazon company. They Bully all retailers and are trying to do the same to players and the gaming industry.
Seems like they’ve been listening to feedback folks. Things are looking upward now
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Had to come back and say that these changes are actually great, it now feel in line with the current state of the game and with the timing you want to push this change. Well done AGS you did listen to your player base feedback and it turned out to be a great balance. I’ll even re-install your game and come back to play it in a few days after i get some time off it.
Now that this is out of the way, please listen to the feedback on weapons and game mechanics, theres plenty of it on your forum.
200 armor and 200 laboratory, that’s all
And whats the best item have you crafted? Show me your ingame potential GS pls 