Before there is to much hate from the PvP community, I don’t even PvP. I just like the PvE content. I normally tank as GS/WH and do love to tank the expeditions and mutators. Kind of got locked into tanking as the group of buddies that I game with wanted to do other things but tank. Not bad, I enjoy tanking so it worked out. Now I was doing pug groups and all that through out all this time of gearing up and having some fun with the bow. I don’t really see a need to run a secondary with it in PvE content as it was a fairly stable weapon on its own.
Post patch though, I have seen a huge drop in damage that I used to do. Split damage with an arcane gem on corrupted for example, would most of the time hit for 10k+ with the bane only being 14%. Now, I am lucky if it hits for 7k overall with the exact same gear, weapon, and stat load out. Nothing has really changed. You stated that you wanted to bring the damage of the ranged weapons up in PvE content and yet you lowered it? It seems that is was more or less slaughtered in a PvP balance. Why not just have the balance changes apply to only those that flag up for Open World, queue for OPR, and do wars? It seems a bit poopy to kneecap the PvE side of things when you said you wanted to bring them in line with other weapons in the game.
I was excited to put my tanking gear down for a change and run as a dps for a change. It would appear that I am just going to put my dps gear back into storage so that it can collect dust again.
The burn out of playing the game is starting to take its toll and very soon I may just stop logging in altogether. Just over the lack of communication, not listening to the player base as a whole, and just the ‘we are going to balance one thing’ and then proceed to break everything. I get a meta shift and all that, but man…Killed the drive for me to want to DPS. Thanks.
I will go ahead and do a bit more testing. If I may ask, do you think you can DM your stats and bow spec? I might have missed something possibly. I just know that my damage is…underwhelming.
The bow is not desired for high level mutations. It works when playing solo or during invasions, but I keep hearing that bow is trash the second I’m searching for M10 party.
This goes even worse for musket players, of which population ceased to exist altogether.
Unfortunately it seems that AGS is incapable of balancing out weapons for both PvE and PvP. I’m not a developer so I cannot say if it would be hard or not, but having slightly adjusted balance when flagged for PvP while keeping the rest of the weapons in-line when doing PvE would solve a lot of issues. We won’t see it happening, though one can dream.
I do fine with the bow on m10s especially the end bosses on Temp (the 2 main bosses) and the new expedition. Obviously if people are pushing hard for top 10 time wise then probably not, but if you want a solid gold run and even place for pts on the leaderboard, then bow is quite fine.
Same basically for my family. We loved the Bow but it was nerfed, now PvPers are whining to get the Fire Staff nerfed, which will give us PvEers NO viable ranged weapons to use.
The PvP community has ALWAYS been toxic since the beginning of MMO’s. They are violent people by nature in general. I HAVE met some polite PvPers though I’ll admit. So not all are bad.
I’m not sure what you’re seeing Monty. Granted, my main bow usage is in invasions, but I have not seen any real damage dropoff - I think the increase to bane has roughly balanced out with the damage reduction in the passives. Hits on sprigs and brutes are about as strong as ever.
I never really played bow before the patch but put together a bow/spear PVE build for Empyrean and love it. To the point that my main Corrupted set is now bow/spear too. I think what is so addictive about it is the satisfaction of getting a headshot and seeing the high damage.
@Saroth - could you share the perks/attributes/passives/actions that lead to a 20k headshot? I can get over 10k but nowhere near 20k yet.
ofc this is setup for max dmg on 1 hit so i run 500 dex.
5x sighted Runecase
3x major corrupted trophys.
infused corrupted coating
powerful honing stone
and kill a mob before, to recieve the 20% empowered ( which works wonderful in Invasions too )
7x refreshing evasion > getting my bow skills quicker of cd
Thank you. I’m using the same ring and my bow is similar but doesn’t have mortal empowerment, will look into that. Will have to invest in sighted runeglass and spec to 500 dex and try it out. Thanks for taking the time to share
