Devs please reset HWM to 500 GS

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I’m o.k. with the new changes, but if we are going down that road then we should be resetting all HWM to 500 GS.

The vast majority of players who are rocking HWM are doing so from grinding in shatterlands before the Mobs were buffed.

If your going to punish the players who invested their time grinding gold to buy gear then it would only seem fitting that those who were choosing to reap the benefits of the cake walk that was shatterlands also lose that progression.

Your changing the system because people are gearing not as you intended. Doesn’t matter if it was through grinding for gold or taking advantage of a weak shatterlands.

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Absolutely not. You will lose player base by resetting. Some people put in the work.

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What work? Shatterlands was a cake walk. The vast majority if HWM was achieved before they adjusted the zone.

If it was working as intended they wouldn’t have had to adjust it so much. Apparently being able to buy high GS gear in TP wasn’t working out as they intended either.

Time is time. Doesn’t matter if it was spent grinding gold or steam rolling shatterlands. Neither system was working as intended apparently so just reset GS to 500 for everyone and allow everyone at 60 to progress from an equal footing moving forward.

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The fact that you are calling Shattered Mountain “shatterlands” makes anything you have included in this post completely null.

If they reset HWM to 500 i will 100%, not think twice about uninstalling. This is the worst idea I have ever read.

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Can i have ur stuff because the will do it

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Indeed. Doesnt matter if its spent grinding the old or the new system. Its time spent and youre not getting it back. So no, im not for a reset.

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@nick4

I love how you used a grammatical error to dismiss my post.

I guess you had too, considering you don’t have an arguement to counter what i said.

Zerging shattered lands pre-patch should count for nothing. Just like the peoples time who chose to grind gold.

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Everyone should be reset to 500gs OR they retroactively give crafters the same courtesy as HWM grinders in that our crafting levels will translate into 600 expertise for 200 crafting. See my reasoning below.

The new expertise systems changes a system that did one thing into a system that give or does TWO things now.

It affect the gs of dropped items AND also affects how well you can use your gear.

This thereby handicaps everyone that chose the crafting route over the HWM route.

It handicaps crafter because they potentially would be giving you the full reward of two things things when you grinded for the one thing only.

the 2 roads as it is now:

road 1
----------------HWM grinding-----→gs 600 gear drops–→ you can sell gear in the AH or keep it

road 2
------------crafting grinding -------→ 600gs crafting------→ you can sell the gear in the AH or keep it.

So both roads are fair, valid and equal.

New expertise system:

road 1
↓---------HWM grinding-------gs 600 drops doesn’t change and you can still sell it ↓
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→---------however it also give you the ability to use your gear to it’s fullest potential------new thing you never grinded for

road 2
↓------------crafting grinding -------→ 600gs crafting------→ you can sell the gear
↓
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→------zip nulch nada---------------why am I not unlocking the ability to use that gear to its max potential like HWM grinders? Why do HWM grinders get this for free but not crafters?

Both roads are no longer fair, valid or equal.

I should be unlocking it too since my hard work should translate over, be retroactive like you HWM grinders think yours should be.

An you can’t say it’s not the same cause when you guys grinded for HWM it was for the ability for gs 600 gear to drop only just like my crafting lvl were for me to make gs 600 gear only

This means it has to be the same for everyone can’t have it both ways.

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@nick4

So you weren’t zerging? I guess you were exploiting the mob AI doing ninja runs or soloing content that was not intended to be done that way. No matter what you were doing in shattered lands pre-patch it wasn’t as intended by the devs. Hence the changes. Why should one part of the player base be punished for not progressing as intended while another is rewarded for also progressing not as intended?

Also kudos to you for choosing to go straight for personal attacks.

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I’m currently somewhere around 550 and I’d totally go with a score reset. Fair game for everyone. I mean, be honest, if you complain now about having to regrind… you’ll have to grind again anyway as soon as they increase the expertise to 620+ or something.

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@nick4

Your assuming i have never been there. I was going pre-patch with our crafter to help him get materials and to grind my HWM. It was a joke playing shenanigans with mob AI.

I have gone post patch as well. We had to add another to the party. But the truth is most of the mob AI is still just as broken, and those who are fixed can still be kited and put into retreat by one member while the others ninja. Then swap.

All in all it’s still a joke. You know it, i know it. Yet somehow you would have us believe your “good at the game”. A monkey could do what your doing.

I’m going to be affected if they reset HWM as well. I wasn’t 600 GS but i will be affected. I’m o.k. with it, it’s not like it was difficult.

Again 2 ways of obtaining high GS gear were available to players grinding for gold or HWM.
Both took time and effort from the playerbase.

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Do you expect kiting to not be a thing?

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I’m saying it’s a joke. High end gear and materials shouldn’t be easily accessed by simply using kiting and putting mobs into retreat.

Either method of gear progression was a joke whether it be gold/tp or HWM. Reset it to 500 when the new system goes in and let everyone progress as intended under the new system.

Also you have repeatedly called me a snowflake despite the fact your the one getting all emotional and irrational over this thread. Wouldn’t you be the snowflake in this scenario? I’m not the one getting upset because someone said something i didn’t like. That would be you.

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Its apart of every MMO and will continue to be apart of any MMO for as long as there is an agro mechanic. Some people will find ways to make it easy, that’s just how it goes. Get over it.

Edit: I’m far from emotional. Merely pointing out that you are one of the snowflakes, much like the rest of the forum. There’s no emotion to that - just your insecurities assuming so.

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Reset my grind because you took the lazy route?

Pass on that mentality.

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Dear AGS shut down servers. Is how I read this post.

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@nick4

Thats not an argument that supports your case.

You just said it’s easy. It’s not supposed to be easy thats why they are changing it.

Everyone is using a bullshit mechanic that is honestly in my opinion a borderline exploit.

But yet somehow you honestly believe this makes you good at the game…

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This system had to be implemented from the start of the game not now when we have grinded for absurd amount of hours and some of us are still not 600 WM.

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@kirodkv996

And some people grinded absurd amounts of hours to purchase their high GS stuff from the trading post.

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I’ve definitely spent more hours leveling and crafting my gear than you just running a Zerg group once a day.

I shouldn’t get screwed because I chose a different route of advancement.

They need to make crafted gear scale based on crafted skill. You shouldn’t be able to benefit from the gear I worked hard to craft then.

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