Devs please reset HWM to 500 GS

Unfortunately I think he’s just stupid.

Objectively, it is extremely UNFAIR to reset WM down to 500. You are erasing many hours of hard work and dedication. If done to me, I’d go crazy!

Personally, it hurts, but since I’m not near 600 WM yet, I don’t mind if they reset it. And I like the new system more for long term. Gotta think of player retention in long term. I’ve played many games with 0 retention.

it also unfair for crafters so this thread is to show why crafting levels should count towards your expertise.

Dev are being fair to HWM grinders but not to crafters period… instead we get a kick in the dick with this BS time gated gysum crap.

OOooo I do not like Time-Gated stuff. I’m not a fan of that, you can be damn sure. But I am a Fan of diminish returns. They coulda just implement a system to lower the drop rate after you get the ‘secure daily drop’ That way, hardcore players can just keep going.

Reminds me GW2 had a similar system on EXP. Where if you farmed an event too many times, EXP kept decreasing until it was less than 10% originally. This made players either continue to help with the event or move on to other sources of content.

But I guess just time-gate progress is the lazy way to do it without taking player feeling into account.

OP clearly has the wrong idea. That is the suggestion to reset the gear score does not go far enough.

Why stop at 500GS, why not go back to 1 or the negative max long value?

Yah your put of your mind, absolutely not, i will not regrind this dumb shit i hated doing it in the first place and im only half way there. We got a month to grind hwm before this update thats alot of time to get close to 600 and let the casks take you the rest of the way

I’ve done it all after they buffed the zones so no.

You must be those that don’t grind, lazy, or the gold makers buying high WM gear thinking your WM will go up by buying it. If you are, then you’re playing the game slow with the intention of updates like this will never happen, or you’re playing the game wrong. Most MMO’s aren’t catered to casual players, if you’re going to play an MMO then expect the insane grind. If you’re one of the ones that actually grinded and got your WM up and posting this reset, then you’re dillusional. You’re being punished for not grinding WM which is entirely your fault. I make money grinding WM since September and not everything is maxed out plus I make more money than your “money grinders”. Shattered is a joke? Ha, a wannabe comedian. Sure you can ninja chest run and not kill anything to raise your WM, but that takes longer than killing plus looting. They even increased the difficulty for zerging especially in myrk so try again. Also They should of locked chests if you’re so butthurt about it, but they didn’t. Now lets compare who’d hurt more. 500 hrs of grinding WM or 500hrs of grinding gold to buy WM assuming this is what you meant about “gold grinders”. Self explanatory, WM grinders because they also make money in the process (even more money than you". So quit complaining about resets when MMO’s are grindy. This system should of been the mechanic from the get go but they didn’t. Should of grinded and those who thought this game was a casual MMO well, check again.

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Lol. HWM chest route isn’t lazy? Clicking open chest while someone else aggros mobs?

Wow I should have grinded HWM from the start, and not waste time with crafting shit. I got all my trades skills to 200 very early thru hard work. Then I spent shit ton of gold and time getting lots of asmodeum and other rare mats to craft my gears. But in the end I still bought most of my 600 GS gears from HWM farmer. Because getting the right stats + perks is SUPER hard. I’m so done with grinding.

Dev’s please reset crafting skill.
With the recent changes it’s much harder for people who focused on PvP to catch up to crafters who took advantages of the easy crafting.

Reset Crafting to 0

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And some people put in the work crafting their 600GS items yet you’re OK with them being reset to 500?

For this to be a fair change either the crafters need to convert their existing gear scores to the new expertise system. Or we all need to go back to 500. That way it would be fair. Either way is fine with me as long as AGS don’t give one set of players an unfair advantage over others.

You keep saying zerging and ninja looting like there wasn’t any other viable option to do myrk or shattered. I did it with my team, we were 5 people and we managed it and learned every mechanic of the bosses to make it quicker.
Grinded there for 300+ hours, no zerging, no ninja looting - we killed everything.
After the update, it’s just not possible to be a 5 man team and clean Shattered/Myrk and it’s just not worth it anymore. Which leaves players to only two choices: Crafting or zerging.
Your time isn’t more valuable than someone elses, if I put 300 hours into grinding zones - that’s my time. If you put 300 hours into crafting, that’s your time. AGS keep f*cking up, the grinders got beaten up by the first patch and now crafters got beaten up by the second one.

How about we reset HWM AND CRAFTING skills back to baseline…

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It’s totally doable with 10. If you guys have all the is 600GS gear I think you COULD do it with 5. I’ve done most of it 5 man after patch. It’s not easy, its challenging, but doable with consumables.

If they start resetting my progress then I’d be out.
I’m not interested in playing an MMO where they just randomly reset my progress because they’ve found a new, fancy and updated way to present a system to us.
All of this should’ve been figured out during the alpha’s and beta’s, resetting people’s progress now is suicide.

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I know that’s supposed to be cute or funny or whatever. But I’d genuinely and unironically prefer that to what they’re doing right now.

What they’re doing right now will put me and many thousands of crafting focused players at significant disadvantage. In an environment where gaining back that advantage is actually significantly harder (as proven by the PTR and the data mining of the code)

Where as at least if everything is reset then we’re all at an equal level and I don’t suffer a massive disadvantage. I’d be completely OK with that. If this is a band aid we have to rip off and suffer through, better that everyone suffers equally rather than some of us being thrown under the bus but others not, that’s not fair at all. Whatever happens ought to at the very least be fair across the player base.

I know right!.. us bloody crafter scrubs…how dare we make gs 600 gears and think we should be allowed to use it to it’s full potential…
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thats why in my opnion they need to make it that the new content they release must be hard to grind.
Now some members of our company has like 600 gs watermark on all armors. ( those are the PvE and PvP guys that like to fight)

While the crafters are still sitting at 510 Gs because they spend all that time leveling up crafting so they can make better tier items.

Now if you make grinding watermarks harder it wont be fair for the crafters.
In my opinion they need to keep it as the old way so that everyone can get 600 GS watermark just like previous times however future content will be allot harder to grind since you cannot ‘prepare’ for it.

Its like saying from now on leveling crafting will tak 5x more experience… do you think the players that are still lvl 1 at crafting will be happy? Of course and they will complain that the previous crafters had it easy and that its unfair for them.

The same goes now with Watermark System. the ones that didn’t do chest runs earlier are now being punished.

I don’t believe you.