Dex Build Not Allowed to do Mutated Lazarus Expedition?

I am a 625 gear score full dex build. My main weapons are bow and spear. I have been told I cannot come into a mutated Lazarus expedition without a hammer. My spear and my bow have ancient bane and a topaz gem, I have tier 5 coatings but that’s not good enough.

Please do not tell me that in addition to needing fully warded, full 625 gear score gear for each mutated expedition I also need a different build too? And more than likely I need a gear set to support that different build? One that I already tried and decided a long time ago I didn’t like?

That is not fun. That is frustration. Please help.

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Not sure what you expect anyone to do about that. Create your own group I suppose.

While hammer is way better in there, bow does just fine. I run bow in laz. People just want to do meta things and hammer is optimal. This is why I hate mobs having weakness and strengths against weapon types. On paper it sounds cool in practice it sucks.

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Going way, way, way back to Asheron’s Call:

In AC I was a bowslinger, but: we could equip lightning, fire, acid, piercing, and - most topical to this conversation - blunt arrows specifically designed to damage thrust-resistant mobs like golems (or in this case, skeletons). That might be something to think about.

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Spear is fine in laz cuz it has rend and low cds and many groups has it. benefits of hammer is cc with nearly every ability, huge damage against ancients. i would not want to have a “bow” in my group but spear is fine for me.

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Back when when people, including myself, complained about arrow cost I suggested they change them from extra damage to different damage types.

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1 spear is always fine for rend

I play bow/spear sometimes, and just yesterday our pre-made party closed m10 laz three times for 27 minutes. I was not the only archer, so we didn’t even have a single GA/hammer. Both me and the other bow/spear user were without wards and we were doing completely fine. We used PVE builds, light armor, regular buffs, etc, but our party didn’t face with any difficulties.

The main thing that I noticed is that new world is getting full of newcomers, which is nice, but I rarely meet any old players, and the newcomers are tend to ask for full ward + meta builds for random parties. Anyway, it still depends on personal skill, even full PVE geared player can output lower DPS than old player without special PVE armor. Lots of my first high mutations were closed without specific builds/armor for gold a lot of times.

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Thei use 4 hamers to stunn enemys forever,so yea its sad true, ppl just bad in mutated exspedition so thei nerd hamers help

Bow it’s totally useless there if you stay on it until last boss where it shines. Spear it’s completely fine and you better pair it trough the run with GA for gravs only. Some groups might just need one more hammer or maybe they don’t have hammer. You can just choose another group. People have preferences and that’s their right. I for one thing FS damage it’s very low in Gen (not popular opinion) Especially it’s single target

Get over it. As a mage, I can’t go to any mutation except genesis. And genesis also only if the group doesn’t have a mage yet and if it’s not hellfire mutation.
I simply made adapted builds for every mobtype and have fun switching builds around in PvE now.

No, Gen and Laz, two dungeons made specifically for ogres are not places for eloquent warriors.

For everone suggesting this guy to change the group. Don’t make him a fool. I am pretty sure that he is aware of the fact that he is not stuck to the people which don’t need his build…

He openeed a discussion about what You guys think about it … so please, at least, try to pretend You undertand the topic …

Back to topic, in my opinion, if You’re good in your build, the set of weapons is not as matter as most of people think. I was running lazarus myself with the bow, and I did not hear any complains. Everything depends on the player.

Most people think that if You take weapon X and pair with weapon Y, take skills A, B, C and D, E and F of second weapon, and that’s all. Boom. You’re ultimate fighter…

Well, nope, You’re just pathetic meta slave without own brain :smiley:

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