I’m at 75K LEGIT gold after buying 1 large house and 2 shacks. Maxed 2.5 professions all refining and gathering.
Making money is even easier now the marekt has turned itself around and a lot of resources have value (on my server anyway)
Exactly. Ironically it’s the legit ones that are getting burned by this and the dupers will now be a larger share of the whole bunch, because in a game like this, trust is everything. If there is no trust that the tradehouse cannot just be randomly stopped to hell at primetime for gamers, what is honestly left?
2 Likes
no effing way. Some of us put in lots of hours, and worked hard to buy houses and build up assets in game. Go somewhere else with this communist bull
1 Like
One one hand because of the dupers, a ton of gold got injected into the economy. So gold pretty much has no value. I am sure duped materials have been spread around a ton as well. So those lose value. Even if all the dupers are banned, there is still a tremendous amount of damage done.
I understand people not wanting progress wiped. On the other hand those people also need to realize, this really hurts the servers economy’s.
What’s going to be the point of gathering for anything, crafting anything, if in the end it has almost no value?
There honestly Isn’t a great answer to all of this. I fell a happy medium would be to just create some fresh start servers that cannot be transferred to after everything is fixed. So those that want it can go there, and those that don’t can stay on their servers.
lol so the people that are 1k away from buying a 20k house that earned it legit just get screwed? No, identify the problem, ban the people that exploited it (shouldn’t be hard to figure out really), fix the problem, win.
2 Likes
That is the case anyway because everyone can gather, can craft, it isn’t a huge money sink or grind like most games (call it a grind if you want, but this is the least grindy game ever), in the end there will be no economy anyway. With OPR on gold is easy, azoth is easy, gathering things is easy, the only thing of any value right now are t5 legendary matts, and guess what even those are going to drop pretty quickly, im up to having gathered around 60 tolvium for example myself already.
1 Like
thjdtyjtdr7
I did no exploits,I used no hacks. I tried to enjoy my game even under every negative condition. If they reset or shut down game for a while I am out.
1 Like
all this talk of wipes is like saying can we re-launch please ?
NO!
there was one shot and it was fucked up!
the players that didn’t cheat should not be punished because of this.
exploiting little shits need a perma ban it’s that simple.
1 Like
this is not a single player game. this is not 2009.
can you please stop.
no to wipes!
yes to perma banning the clowns that thought it was ok to cheat!
ban them by mac address.
The point is, the dupe exploit has been around since launch. Simply banning those who obviously duped, if finding them all is even possible, wont fix the integrity of the game. They bought stuff, gave stuff away and so on. The whole economy and progression of everybody is affected by this. I completely understand how wiping isnt a feasable solution to anyone. But AGS screwed up, screwed up big. At this point its more about how they can possibly salvage the situation, there is no good solution left.
I agree. Think people are making things seem much worse even though it’s probably only a few servers that were hit badly, and people are just repeating what they heard and making it an excuse to why they don’t make money.
I was always the guy in WoW who had no money and had no clue how to make it, but in this game I found it way easier.
All you have to do is sell whatever you’re not using or have extra of. Eventually you find out what sell well, then you just grab that whenever you can.
A wipe is the worst idea, if there’s a wipe the majority of people will not comeback as the issues hasn’t affected the majority as badly as people are making out.
I totally understand the idea, but personally I cannot support a reset.
As a lot of player I took my time on this game. It is after 8 days of effective play time that I finally got my level 60. 8 days during which I collected a lot of resources, set up my harvesting, processing and creative jobs. And yet I am stuck at level 131 of obscure arts because of virtually untraceable cod eyes and today at prohibitive prices.
The problem is that although I had a great time during this period of farm, I still had a lot of trouble with the rise in the classic level.
Quests are really a pain in the ass. We spend our time doing the same thing all the time, without any variation. Concretely at level 50 you do exactly the same thing as at level 5.
Then you will tell me that there is the picture of cities, but the problem is that the latter is conditioned by the will of the governors. And if the governors do not want to launch major projects, well the missions of the table do not yield anything.
And even if in the best of the world the tables came to give big missions all the time, raises the question of money. The table returns nothing and we are soon forced to do the side quests, which are unfortunately a real way of the cross.
So sorry but for me if the game goes through a reset my adventure will stop here. I don’t have the strength to repeat this upgrade, which is absolutely not pleasant, although the fighting is over. And honestly, as much as I love the farm, I can’t imagine spending whole days going up crop/mine/slaughter to level 175.
Everyone is panicking, but I’m really hoping they can find a way to identify every dupe by finding exact identical transactions, and banning and deleting everything in an inventory. It would suck, but I’d rather wait a bit for any excess on the market to eventually be consumed and wait for the markets to “return to normal.” Because forcing an extreme correction on EVERYONE for a group of kiddos exploiting the game is crazy, and would drive so many people away from this game.
The only way I could see a wipe working is with a level boost to character levels and profession levels. I would still be pissed off, and may even quit regardless, but at least when I do come back or if I ever do I would be up and running near where I am now in a quarter of the time.
Thats nuts! There must be a way they can scan code for people having way to much and just ban that player.
My server (Vainola, EU, low pop) fortunately, has a stable economy and for all I know, almost no one has duped shit, or if they have done it they did it in small scale and the market didnt get fucked up, therefore an hypotethic server wipe there would be killing the sv and the entire playerbase there. As someone said before, I think this exploit has hit hard in high pop servers, or at least in some of them, where the fight for resources is harder and people in some twisted way felt the need to cheat their way to the top. Im sure AGS has some way to see which servers are the most affected ones, and if that is the case, why not just ban all the exploiters, disable transfers to and from these servers, make a new server for each server who has been widely affected by those exploiters and give the opportunity for those in those servers to transfer to those new servers for free with thw requierement of having their storage wiped and the gold capped to 10 15k if they had more in their first server? I think that could be an alternatuve to those highly affected by the exploiters and not fucking up people who have grinded a lot of hours or fucking up servers who have survived through this exploits withour being hit too hard
Terrible idea, would kill the game for sure.
The game is already dead at this point. we need to resussitate post dupe fix and wipe.
This topic was automatically closed 30 days after the last reply. New replies are no longer allowed.