Does it bother anyone else that even as we watch in real time servers dying off and losing players...that the devs still make it a point to rearrange chests constantly to make it harder for players to solo them?

Define how this is feedback?

There’s topics with real criticism.

This just another topic that needs to be erased into the ether.

Feedback: “AGS did focus on things 2 patches previous that make the current patch even harder, especially for solo players or dead servers with no alternatives. That should not happen.”

Question: “Why is that the case?”


That is basically all that is written there + specific cases where this happens.

I mean you should also agree it’s impossible to farm elite boxes alone, and that transfer tokens are needed, and that you are gated from content in case you can’t rais your expertise to 600.

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-62.17%, -46.40%, -20.78% isn’t healthy. In fact, the number wasn’t even -15% before this last patch.

The OP should have phrased this better, although we do understand the frustration. Still, @tt123 is making a point about priorities while server populations are dropping quickly.

To be honest, I don’t have much hope with the dev leadership that is in place. The decisions that have been made in the face of population drops are misguided. If anything, February will be even worse with the releases coming (ironically, one of them being AGS…at least as publisher).

Stop Saying this is “Feedback”
It’s pure criticism on AGS team that is doing what is possible. It takes 10 minutes to move enemies and prevent people to GLITCH the hell out of the enemies nearby the chests. Nothing bothers more than useless critics. Don’t like the game? Well, other people like it.

Maybe AGS needs criticism more than feedback?

I’m with the game since beta, and the amount of feedback, that lead to AGS doing the exact opposite of what the feedback suggested, puts Mount Everest to shame!

We told them PVE needs better story and quests, AGS half-assed it.
We told them PVP needs more tiers, AGS postponed those tiers.
We told them combat isn’t responsive enough for action combat, AGS removed the third weapon slot.

If AGS is doing what is possible, maybe publishing a MMO isn’t within their abilities??

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never ever have i played a game so frustrating combat responsiveness is a joke here and so many manyyyyyyyyyy buggs im never gonna pre order game from amazon ever again il wait a few months and wait for feedback

Here’s more Feedback for you games dying doubtful it survives the Dev’s massive short comings, and this sucks because the game was awesome, in idea and theory. Just not the right people listening to the community atm. But they are also right being forced to party all the time sucks if your server is dead I was glad I saved my transfer for so long otherwise I wouldn’t play NW at all cause I honestly wouldn’t be able too.

The difference between criticism and feedback is largely temporal. The OP is about what we do not want anymore; a call to stop focusing on these types of items. Feedback is more forward thinking. Both can be valuable to a team looking for improvements.

You state, “an AGS team that is doing what is possible.” However, they are doing these things the OP points out, and if the dev team did not focus time on such changes, there would be other possibilities.

“Nothing bothers more than useless critics.” That sounds like a personal issue that you have to work out. According to the forum guidelines, the OP was both clear and concise. Phrasing could be improved, but so could yours.

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Yeah it bothers me, it took me almost 4 months to realize but the game isn’t going anywhere without major changes within AGS. The guy calling the shots just doesn’t have the ability to lead this game where it needs to go. He surely doesn’t play the game in any meaningful sense, there are so many things pointing to this including priorities, 590+ cost, zero PVP content, horrible decisions everyone knows are bad. I feel the leads and decision makers need to be at least passionate about and heavily play their game early on to be able to make correct decisions.

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Glad to see others who notice the in your face issues with this company.
The Sheeples will wake up one day… I hope.

With the most recent patch release and umbral shards taking front and center stage for all forms of content, the game is dead. This needs a FAST turn around to make other forms of content valuable. We’re literally just farming mutators all day buying casual player’s tuning orbs because this is the only content people who want to progress can do to up GS.

It’s astounding how poorly implemented this entire patch was, and I did notice while running through Siren’s they moved chests at mini-bosses to be horribly difficult to loot. They don’t have their priorities straight at all, and on top of that, they don’t implement systems well. There’s so much more that could be done to make this an enjoyable experience for everyone, but they just don’t let it happen. It’s quite disappointing because this game will not have a resurgence of players and those of us who like the game will have to leave it or play among a dwindling playerbase.

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“harder to solo” – Don’t try and solo elites by exploiting the terrain and pathing AI I guess? To be honest they should have had better QA and never released anything players could cheese like that.

I understand you’d like more solo content that gives you absolute endgame stuff but why would anyone do the difficult content that you’re avoiding if it worked that way?

i play on the west. at the game launch there were like 30 servers on the west. they all had crazy names like yggdrrsl and lillilium except for two… camelot and el dorado.

i said to myself. ya know, that camelot and that el dorado, those are going to be the two most populated servers. i picked el dorado because it sounded cooler than camelot. now i play on a server that is jam packed with players.

now i am not on a dead server. now i am not on a dead server because thinking equals winning.

then i got to 60 and i was all excited to go loot some chests. i knew about watermark and i knew i could ninja me some chests so i headed up to shattered mountain and i looted the hell out of those chests.

then one day i came up on a chest and it had a nightmare warrior with a giant sword guarding it. i was like… haha they don’t want me to get this chest… so i agro’d the warrior, made him run around and i got in and ninja’d that chest while he was chasing me.

it was good times. i overcame a new challenge. it made me happy.

then a little later, i went back to that chest and not only was there a monster warrior, but there were like six musketeers and they all started shooting me. i was like daaaaamn they rly don’t want me up in these chests. so i got to running around and shots were flying and people were dying and sure enough i got all up in those chests in the chaos anyway.

it was real hard but exciting and when i hit an expertise bump every time i was like w00t! i was happy. i overcame the challenge and the peeps that didn’t overcome the challenge didn’t get the expertise bumps… they just died… and i knew those peeps were going to go to the forums to cry so i followed them to the forums just to laugh.

That the Ballad of Smokey Pokey? Maybe it will turn up in the game.

Never underestimate the influence of survivorship bias and prose, my grandma used to say.

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i knew her well.

Define a “White Knight” cause at this point I feel like if anyone says anything in defense of the game/Devs is labeled a white knight.

people who are wrong resort to name calling instead of supporting their position. a knight is a warrior and a white knight is the good guy warrior. he fights against the black knight who is the bad guy and wrong. somewhere along the way someone decided to use white knight as a perjorative, even though that makes no sense, because they had no support for their argument and they needed a smokescreen. it continues to this day in this very thread among the prose of the casualty biased.

If anyone says anything is good about this game other than Graphics and sounds you are delusional. Is that better than calling you’all white knights, yup calling you that gives you to much credit.

I see no feedback here. Chests shouldnt be solo’d. Find 4 friends to play with. Its an mmo

group duels are pretty fun, especially player ran 3v3 tournaments. Those are great fun. . . So your all inclusive, nothing is good, statement has been disproven and your point is invalid. You sir, are the delusional one.