That’s a fair point but we should look at the downside as well. Can you imagine being one of the people who grinded HARD for max armoring or weaponsmithing etc very early on in the game when it was much more difficult and took much longer, just for them to slap you in the face by making BIS gear extremely easy to get? And by lowering the xp required for 200 and not giving any sort of reward or compensation for that? There needs to be a balance in this otherwise we’re gonna get to a point where there’s no reason to craft anything anymore.
Now you’re changing your argument instead of admitting you were wrong. BiS means best in slot. If something is not the best, it is not BiS, no matter how good it is.
Glad you admitted you were lying about warring though lmao. Makes your claim that EU war meta is superior to NA kind of silly, doesn’t it?
I can tell how angry you are based on how many emojis you spam. Pretty soon you’ll be communicating entirely in emojis.
Should be able to select everything for leveling the trade skill to 200. Make it bop or something.
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Awful take, let everyone build gear exactly how they want for cheap -
Maybe you are afraid to find out your gear is the only thing keeping you competitive?
Maybe you aren’t even competitive with your gear and once everyone can play with and build the gear they want then you will have to PvE?
Idk.
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Im not wrong tho? The only time keen becomes not bis on a great axe is if someone has full resilient + 150 con. So basically never. And you still get lots of health back per crit. Which the video you got your conclusion from conveniently missed 
And whenever i type “bis hammer” in the dry tree server + new world global trading server every single one has thwarting strikes. Which you for some reason called useless? But no i guess im wrong
How are eu wars superior to na wars? You all just spam great axes. Crazy meta bro
wheres ur proof or explanation on how a bow spear player can beat a good hatchet spear player? Im waiting
The graph on the right certainly fits with my values and vision for the game. Should be easy (or without RNG) to get really good stuff. The best stuff should still be something to work towards.
I craft mostly for myself and I’ve suggested many times to let us choose two perks (even if at 10x the mats cost). I’m really happy it’s coming.
The game should be fun to play and supply a variety of activities.
My fun comes from experimenting with different builds and off-meta stuff. The items I want aren’t often on the Trading Post.
I’m very happy with the changes and direction the game is going in.
Next step should be to remove scaling in gear in PVP. My suggestion was for gear score to unlock perks rather than damage and armor and attributes and that all T5 items could be upgraded with Shards regardless of their GS.
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havent read anything but the OP post, but wanted to make sure you understood the term INLFLATION is when the things people purchase BECOME MORE EXPENSIVE, relative to a prior period, etc.
And if market prices have become much cheaper, then its the opposite of INFLATION (smh that i have to explain this), so DEFLATION, which was much needed in NW, with those 1M-2M BIS prices that we had before.
Back to my cave now.
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a million times this ^ best summarization of the situation
keen becomes not bis on a great axe is if someone has full resilient + 150 con
So you admit keen is not BiS. Because every serious PvPer has Resil + 200 con.
And whenever i type “bis hammer” in the dry tree server + new world global trading server every single one has thwarting strikes
Because of kids like you who call everything “BiS” without knowing what it means. I can also see people selling keen-plagued warhammers and calling them “BiS.”
wheres ur proof or explanation on how a bow spear player can beat a good hatchet spear player
How is one supposed to prove that a bow player can beat a melee player? It’s common knowledge. Try landing your shots for starters.
You’re just making a fool out of yourself. No-name arena bow player who doesn’t get invited to wars, but thinks his incorrect opinions about meta and perks matters. Lol.
I don’t necessarily think so. System improvements are system improvements. It was a players decision to play then and engage in underwhelming systems. That shouldn’t be a reason to not push the system in a direction that’s better for everyone else.
Also - the reward for vet players is that they will have more competently geared players to play with. That should be the ideal state of the game for both PvE and PvP.
I was one of those people and the slap in the face was that I wasted millions of coin on material to not even have sets to equip myself much less have spare to sell.
The old system was terrible - I value my time - wasting months of play sessions.
I want time to work out, go outside, have quality time with loved ones, socialize IRL, play games including other ones, sleep, work, etc. You know - enjoy a balanced lifestyle.
Balancing MMOs around no-lifers isn’t catering to the majority of their audience, especially now that gamers from the 90s have grown up.
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literally the next thing i said is “so basically never” because no one runs 5 resil So no i dont admit anything, keen is bis on a great axe. Especially with the heal on crit perk.
And yea everyone is a kid who doesnt know what bis is including people who own the biggest and cringiest shell companies on the game mhm. Great logic bro. Youre above us all, only you know what bis is.
Why do you keep insisting on calling it a “melee player”? there are multiple melee weapons in the game but the ones im talking about are hatchet and spear.
Ngl everything you say SCREAMS youre bad at the game. And you try to compensate by acting like you know better. Sad asf send some povs id love to see how bad u are
Many people in this thread corrected you on what BiS is. You just don’t want to accept being wrong.
keen is bis on a great axe. Especially with the heal on crit perk.
This line alone proves you know nothing about wars. Melee BiS is solely from a DPS perspective. You have a group healer for a reason.
No PvP company has their melee take a DPS hit in exchange for some useless lifesteal.
Sorry, but you are objectively incorrect. Spam some more emojis to show how totally not-upset you are, little buddy.
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if crafting getting easier next tier on the way. like 6 perk items.
Prices on Dry Tree are a lot lower than anything you will see on US West for upper tier items. That being said, there is no way that someone is offering 1.9m for a Maelstrom axe with Chain anything. Those things top out at around 1.4m if the other two perks are some combo of Attunement (non-flame version), Thwarting Strikes and Refreshing Move.
And the only amulet that sells for 500k anywhere is Slash Protection, Health and Stamina Recovery. Literally every other combination tops out at less than half of that. When you said “double ward”, I’m assuming you meant Refreshing Ward and some form of Slash/Fire/Ice Protection. Still isn’t selling for anywhere near 500k. A Heavy bruiser stacking Ref Ward might pay 200-250k, but that’s all.
People lie about c/os in trade chat all the time. You can’t assume because someone says it that it is actually a legit offer. If you want to see what things actually sell for, check the global trade discords.
Your GA hasn’t been BiS since the new patch. People have crafted a lot of those recently, and they are still selling, but they are basically 3rd tier now, at best. Items that are better and sell for more are:
- Attunement, Thwarting Strikes, Refreshing Move (actual BiS)
- Attunement, Thwarting Strikes, Maelstrom / Whirlwind / possibly Gravity Well
- Attunement, Refreshing Move, Maelstrom / Whirlwind / possibly Gravity Well
- Thwarting Strikes, Refreshing Move, Shirking / Chain (for stat padders)
Back when Attunement was a Proc instead of Elemental label, your Keen, Refreshing Move, Thwarting Strikes was BiS, but only because there was literally no other desirable perk there. They hadn’t buffed weapon perks on the weapon yet, so people didn’t really want Maelstrom or Whirlwind. Some wanted Gravity Well because finding armor with the perk was (and still is) stupid expensive. And there still isn’t really a consensus about chain (some like it, I think it’s only for stat padders) and shirking (again, some like it, but others think it is too hard to proc, since you have to dodge through an attack to make it work). And both Chain and Shirking got big buffs in the last patch, making them more desirable.
Also, Keen is, at this point, pretty universally acknowledged as a dead perk on GA, because there are any number of better options for that third slot, unlike before. It’s better than a 2 perk, but that’s about it.
Correct, by double ward I mean moonstone plus slash protection, which I’ve also seen sell for 300-500k.
Axe was Chain ice, refreshing move, thwarting, not enfeebling. Autocorrect changes “rm” to “em” for some reason.
You’re talking to a brick wall here. This kid is a non-war bow player but is thoroughly convinced keen GA lifesteal is BiS. For some reason.
Ah- that axe. I’ve heard stories about it. Pretty sure that guy is faking the offer as it’s from “a guy in his company”, so he can’t share screenshots proving the offer. Faking offers is a bannable offense in the global discords where most of these BiS items trade. That being said, I could MAYBE see someone paying 1m for that, since the chain ice would benefit from the Ultimate Chill perk, even if I personally think chain is stupid.
And yeah- 20% Slash Protection seems to be meta these days. So a Slash Protection Moonstone amulet gets you 15% by itself. 1 more moonstone or 2 onyx, and you’re there. If you go the Onyx route, you’ve got 5 more slots. Add a Thrust gem, 2 Rubies and 2 opals and you’re at 20% slash, 10% Thrust, 5% Strike, 17% Flame and 5% for all other elemental.
Of course, if that Moonstone amulet was an onyx, you could replace the thrust gem with another Onyx and get 20/10/10 with the same 17% flame, 5% other elemental stuff.
I’m currently running a Flame protection amulet, because I’m budget conscious, so I lose out on 2% Flame Protection, since elemental gems give 6% resistance and every physical gems give 5%.
Flame Protect amulet + 2 Opal + 2 Moonstone + 4 onyx = 20% Slash, 10% Strike/Thrust, 15% Fire, 5% other elemental.