I have never been one of those guys that say ‘maaaan if X happens then I will just stop playing’… But I’m damn close this time lol… Do they really want every single player (instead of the current 80%) running around with GA / Hammer or GA / Hatchet??
I was really hoping for some build diversity in this game but they are making extreme changes instead of minor tweaks…
Taken from this thread 15 second video to end all Great Axe discussions
Greataxe has grit, it can hit multiple opponents and its lunge is absolutely nutty. Just look at this video, I can confirm a medium dodge (can be) “key word” caught by the lunge of the greataxe (i tested it).
Spear is a single target weapon and also has the same crazy lunge. The difference is it can not hit multiple opponents so its far more balanced.
Comparing just two of these weapons you can see why many choose the greataxe. There is no competition because effectively spamming attacks on the greataxe lunges you forward and hits in a wide arch multiple opponents They really need to do something with the greataxe to bring it in line with the other weapons.
Reason I don’t use bow or musket is simply because when I try to, the game is too laggy and the weapons are way too clunky.
Weapons like great axe and hammer are much more reliable (and therefore more fun) because they actually hit their target almost everytime.
If they just did basic bug fixes to every weapon, and make sure that all the abilities work as they say, then they will become more popular.
The majority of these balance changes are pointless, and are just causing a bunch of confusion among the playerbase (especially casuals). Its harming the game and community to do so many band-aid balance changes this early on.
Yep - completely agree there. They are making balance changes when things are completely broken/clunky or don’t work as the tooltips say…
Go back and look at the clip, the instant ice shower is cast and the person is caught, LOOK AT THE TIME B/W the DEBUFF (frostbite) appearing and him jumping, its almost instant. They dont get froze (aka root) for 1 second, cuz they are jumping literally 0.1seconds after the debuff activates.
Also the clip where he was showing him shooting the IG and not hitting bc he jumped in the 2nd clip, he was saying a GOOD player will always jump immediately, so now an IG player has to anticipate which direction he is going to jump to land the projectile to get the frostbite heavy freeze to proc. Why does he have to anticipate, because the time it takes to cast a heavy attack is longer than the time it takes you to jump out of it before the 1second root is complete. therefore you are bad if you can’t dodge a skill that it is meant to root but doesn’t bc it is bugged.
i dont want to hear ohh the second clip he was frozen for 1 second, blah blah blah, go watch it and use the time markers and you can clearly see it is less than 1 second before he jumps. starts partial way through 8 second marker and ends on 8 second marker, doesn’t even hit 9. Now tell me who’s exaggerating.
Notice how when he jumps he jumps directly up, instead of to the side. And he only jumps to the side 1 second later (when the root has ended).
Ice shower does not root for 7 seconds, it only roots once at the start (you have to heavy attack to reapply root). Xaryu doesn’t even know how his own abilities work, and so he thinks that this clip proves that you can jump while rooted when it proves the opposite.
I am just going off this clip. Its taken in the PTR server. I don’t know exactly how different jumping looks in the current live game.
Frostbite itself doesn’t freeze… The ice shower itself roots for 1s but frostbite stays on for 3s after which just means if he gets heavy attacked again with frostbite on him it will freeze him again for 1s. He’s right. You can’t jump during the initial 1s root. When the initial 1s shower root expires you can jump, otherwise you’d be walking at 50% speed. Notice how he pauses first entering the ice shower, that is the 1s root, then he starts jumping.
Yeah and its extremely painful trying to explain that to people because they automatically believe whatever the streamer says, and not what they can see with their own eyes.
Yeah, I even tested it myself.
Some dude trying to do a gotchya moment on me (in another thread) by saying “actually you can jump out of it, just not in PTR” but gave zero evidence.
I’m guessing that you can “jump” while rooted in current server but it just makes you jump upwards like in that same clip, and not actually break the root.
Yeah I tested it on live, and I couldn’t even jump up. I entered ice shower and spammed jump and was still rooted for 1s, lol. Jumping is just an advantage cause it makes you harder to hit than if you were walking.
Yeah that is what I would expect, because if you could actually jump out of it I am pretty sure I would have noticed it having played hundreds of hours.
When I was ice gauntlet, literally no one could ever escape my roots so long as I did it correctly.
Some dudes are even saying you can dodge while rooted, which is obviously false too.
Yep, not possible. And 1s is so little time. I’ve noticed people complaining about being perma frozen if they get ice showered, and then ice stormed in OPR, which I felt like has happened to me tons of times, but I’m pretty sure lag causes that, or desync. It’s f’d. I tested it and have a clip and without lag and quiet area ice gauntlet debuff mechanics are working as intended. But when there’s lag, people tend to get frozen for much longer… Desync affecting skills like that is really bad.
Yeah its a desync or lag thing, look at this and also this too.
Lag makes ice shower (maybe storm too?) super broken. Note I am not the one lagging, I have really good connection/pc. I am not sure if its the ice gauntlet guy who is lagging or the server lagging.
And these two clips are not even the worst (wasn’t recording always), I had two other times before these when it was waaaay more obvious and worse. One of the times I dodged through the ice shower, and then got teleported backwards back into it and then got killed by the ice gauntlet. And the other time, I was like 10 meters away from the ice shower but was still getting rooted by it and died.
My frustrations are beyond imaginable with this post. Please try to use any other weapon for a change and write this again. People doing 1v5s all over the outpost rush with ice/fire consistently…winning matches with 15 ice/fires and few healers. Theres litteraly no other weapon that comes close to that absurdidty and weaker than musket in long range? if you are trying to fight across continents yes because of musket hitscan other than that no.
1v5? That is lies man.
When I used ice gauntlet I did 1v8 hahaha. Literally no one can catch you if you have musket secondary, and if anyone get close to you just freeze them and they stand still while you 2-4 shot kill them LOL.
Again, he’s not right. Xaryu conveniently posts a timer with milliseconds in the top left. But if you download the video and run it thru VLC, here are the time stamps:
Frostbite (Ice Shower) applies at 8:49:34:562
First jump registers at 8:49:34:940
Delta: 378 milliseconds
In other words, he jumped 1/3 of a second after Ice Shower applies. I even rounded up because it looks like the jump actually started at :870.
I don’t think you’re a troll, but please post a clip from PTR (pref with millisecond stamp) that shows otherwise.
I don’t have a clip, but I tested it on live, not ptr, so maybe on ptr it is diff. Either way the root still applies to you first, if you can jump before 1 second on the ptr then obviously it’s a problem. Also they just posted in the patch notes that all jumping is disabled while in a root, so if this is still possible on the ptr then it is indeed bugged.
Grav well is not a root. The stun it applies is a bug, which has been there since early early and is finally getting fixed.
