Economy, leaderboards feedback

I’ve been playing this game since the beta, i’ve been here when wars were unplayable, glitches, exploits, people dragging the game in window mode and not die, i saw people puting images on trade chat. But i’ve never been so upset as lately.

I don’t fully understand were AGS is going with this changes. First of all, lets talk about leaderboards and why i think that they are useless in the current state of the game.

Leaderboards forces the game to become a sweatfest, arenas, opr and dungeons will become a tryhard thing, people will try to play a casual 3v3 and get stomped by a duo with poket healers or abusing mechanics since we have no matchmaking what so ever.
Why we have leaderboards now? there is no reason to release such thing in the current state. In order to have a succesfull leaderboard you need to have 2 type of queue, casual or ranked, that way, you will have a chill sector were people go there and try stuff, new weapons, builds, and a ranked place where people play to glory and to be up in the leaderboard.
We don’t have a matchmaking system, cross server queue or anything that justify to implement leaderboards.
Dont get me wrong, leaderboards are a good thing to add to a game, but NOT YET, not in this order, priority should be = Balance combat , matchmaking + cross server , ranked + leaderboards. By doing leaderboards first the only thing you are making is that casual players will avoid arenas or opr or even high lvl dungeons in order to not deal with tryhards sweatlords.

Now, about economy. I was on a legacy server and moved to a fresh start once they came out. The things that killed the economy on my legacy server wasn’t solo chest runs, was bots. Bots made fishing a meaningless activity, bots made prices drop to non existant. But instead dealing with bots, AGS decided to remove coins from fishing chests. And now, nerfing solo chests runs.
Do you realize that brimstone is a hugemongus map and taking those chests off makes people to not going to certain places, because THERE IS NOTHING THERE ANYMORE? i mean, why the hell i’ll go to one extreme point of the map if there is the same amount of mobs than the usual, but just 1 chest instead 3 like it used to be?
Not only that, but from what i been playing as a farmer, sometimes you have luck and get some trophy mats, some days dont, but i got exitement and go and try my luck without depending a brainless zerg to do elite chests runs. I go there, fight mobs by my own and try to get something. But now that activity is harmfull to the economy?
I thought that BOTS were impactfull, or 2 or 3 companies hoarding loads of coin in taxes were hurtfull.
To be fair, people like us that do chest runs daily, most of them don’t do it for become lords of coins, we mostly do it to get our own trophy mats and actually play the game, farm, gather stuff and so on, otherwise.
Day 1 with this nerf and prices skyrocketed like i’ve never seen.

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25k for stacked deck
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This is the economy fix you guys trying to implement? Could you try to at least play the game that you manage? it seems like you guys don’t even play your own game, you are giving us content but without backup (leaderboards without a proper leaderboard system, just for the sake of being there) and now you are forcing us to become a zombie left click spaming on elite chest runs because it’s not worth it to do solo chests anymore?

and lastly, why are you guys spending that much time and money to make a make as brimstone, super interesting and big, but taking out the only content that made me explore the map. Now we wont be going to lots of areas because there is nothing there. Feels like first light 2.

Edit: thanks @SpiceSea for remind me. You guys spoiled nerfs incoming for light armor “SOON tm” so lightly on a video, without more information, time, dates, nothing. That paralized the light armor market, people are avoiding the crafting of such armor, or are not buying, because you mentioned casually on a video nerf incoming. Can we please work on communication?
Yesterday loaded dice was 20k

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Players asked for leaderboards.

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i miss overscaled egg picture in chat

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yeah one post, but still my point is valid. Leaderboars without a propper system to back them up is a waste of resources. Don’t get me wrong, leaderboards are a good thing to the game, but not yet. In a game with so many issues regarding to pvp, weapon balances and lack of content, you cannot put leaderboards just by itself, imagine if people were abusing broken weapons and mechanics without a leaderboard reward, now will be worse.

Also bringin leaderboards without a separate queue will make all matches ranked and no place for casual players. Yeah you can go and play casually, but get stomped by tryhards, duos with healer or get bullied by tryhard teammates. Leaderboards are a big L with this state of the game

More than one actually. But just ignore those facts.

how many post you have seen for people asking for mouns, hability to swim, and other millon of things, even if the community as a whole asked for leaderboards. Do you believe the time is right for such thing?
You are just ignoreing my point by quoting a few players that wanted leaderboards. Ask them what they preffer, leaderboards or balance pvp, weapons and game stability.
Dont try to cover the sun with one finger

also a note in case you did not read my post, i never said “No one asked for leaderboards” so quoting people that asked for them has nothing to do with the facts i mentioned in my post

I didnt ask for leaderboards. Take it up with those that did.

i really dont undestand where you going with your comments, im just poiting issues on the leaderboards and you come here saying “people asked for it” i dont need to take it to noone but the devs, people can ask, cry, or do what ever they want, afterall the last words are the ones that manages the game, so here i am, posting for them to read on oficial forums.
Have a great day

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You have a great day!

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Seems to me like leaderboards were more about testing & implementing a collaboration with Omni than the actual addition of leaderboards.

Leaderboards probably seemed like a good way to test that collaboration.
Could be done again in future developments.
(Mentioned in the latest Forged video)

By the way - it’s the last thing I wanted as well, just saying what I think they were doing. Combat balancing, bugs, all way higher up on my list.

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maybe it’s that way, but bad timing to test such things. The game is not in a state were could get any benefit from a leaderboard rather than any of the other critical things. Even when they state that “they have separated teams and the leaderboard won’t consume resources from other developers teams” i find it sad.

I dont blame them from trying or bringing something new, i blame them for the lack of critical thinking and their awfull timing.

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I agree. Now we have suspended economies and more people leaving.

collaboration is almost always good, but it would be better if they aim that kind of things to more impactfull things to the game, such as balance, better or more content, better communication and so on

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It is true that leaderboard should be there when there are rank and unranked, but even if they input the 2 different mode, it will divide the players because there is apparently no cross-server queue for now, it will be even harder to find game.

yeah i forgot to mention that, something that they took so lightly was spoiling incoming nerfs without more information, THAT kills the economy. I see tons of new world videos on youtube with titles such as “Dont craft any light armor, dont do this, stop crafting” and so on.

agree 100% with you, the order of priority should be cross server( to avoid long queues), ranked - casual (to avoid people complaining about sweatfest) then leaderboards to bring something to the table for the people that want to ranks

Those ? the one you mean ? Who got one like - ok some might have asked for it but the thread you have been repeatedly posting is probably not a wise choice :wink:

Here is another

And another

And another

Do you see a trend here? One of those posts has more than 0 and less than 2 likes, and none have replies.

It’s not something people wanted for the most part.

I didn’t count the one by black briar because all of the response was negative.

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