Vicious doesn’t stack either.
Hi there Ruanur, thanks for taking the time to provide this feedback and all the details. I will make sure it’s recorded and seen by the right people so that hopefully you can hit harder like you should be. Take care!
My understanding is this is by intentional design (it’s been discussed many times before).
For sword and shield the perks stack, provided they are not identical.
So for example:
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Twarting Strikes on Sword stacks with enchanted on shield
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All perks (Enchanted, Keen, Vicious etc) will effect sword hits regardless of whether they are on your sword or your shield but you cannot “stack” two identical perks else this would be too powerful
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There may be some outliers like refreshing move & refreshing ward due to the way they work which I haven’t tested, but above is semi common knowledge amongst SnS players
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Some perks are exclusive to sword and not available on shield and vice versa so players will look to min-max by tweaking their desired combination
Developer post source?
Stacking vicious also seems to be detrimental to critical damage.
This player has no resilient items equipped.
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I have no clue how ur getting these low numbers dawg, tho I will say putting everything into str on a str/dex split weapon is prob why
First, that’s not relevant to this bug. All that matters is the damage with and without stacking the perks.
Second, I’m intentionally avoiding any rend or empower effects or any weapon perks that could alter the numbers to remove variables. I’m also wearing heavy because equipping the shield can change your armor class.
But if you want to see what a sword can do and assuage any “learn 2 play” concerns, here you go:
Wait, with Enchanted on both, the damage went down?
I tested this in patch 1.4.3 and it was working (it went up in PvP)
Interesting
That is correct, yes. Equipping an enchanted shield reduced my damage from 1041 to 968 or roughly 7%.
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That’s because it’s using the perk from shield which is lower, or they still have the bug below.
I haven’t checked in a while but their OnEquip logic was broken before where it could actually not use the perk from either of them depending on how you equipped and removed gear.
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Afaik its intentional and by design. If you have the same perks on Shield AND Sword only one will work. You cant have for example have Keen/Enchanted/Lifesteal on Shield and Sword and expect the effects to be doubled.
Dev post source?
This also happened when i stacked lifesteal… lifesteal went down when i stacked it on a shield and sword by the amount that was on a shield.
im not digging through this mess of a forum but yes they have said you cant stack weapon dmg perks , even though there are some weapons that drop with double weapon perks SNS will not stack damage perks. also there are bane shields id assume wouldn’t stack either
Alpha, Beta, Preview testing (seperate forums, now closed) & early Discord discussions.
We don’t need a dev post; it’s not meant to stack.
Well… I tested in a duel, with my enchanted sword
- a shield with enchanted
- a shield without enchanted
- no shield
- Made sure I had the the same attributes testing each scenario (16 Str from shield)
And it stacked, my damage went up with double enchanted ?? Even more confused
This is the same developer that has a nine month long history of recurrent bugs.
Just because your datamine says a thing doesn’t mean it’s intended.
Also doesn’t explain my damage being reduced when equipping an enchanted shield.
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