Final Feedback, Thanks for The Content

Sadly, it’s not 10 for free.

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There is no pay to win element in that season pass. RNG boxes are same crap you can get from OPR or gypsum system or other sources. 99/100 wont be worth anything but salvaging.

Wardrobe slots are fine. Starting number is way to low, but fact they want to sell them does not change anything. It wont make u any better player.

Wana see buy power? Bo play any asian mmo or diablo immortal. you will see and understand that what you write about is bs.

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May want to pay attention to some things namely 30 days ago, aen said subject to change.

Iv been on ptr, its 10.

:roll_eyes:

Someone doesn’t understand free vs paid, or having 10 on the ptr for testing purposes. I’m not going to waste time trying to explain it, someone else can.

The season pass uses the exact same scum ridden design that crossout uses, if I am going to put up with that, I may as well play crossout more.

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I pay attention to everything on here, thanks.

You are simply incorrect. There are currently two for free when you reach level 25 and one when you complete the Season Pass to level 100, as Aenwyn said. Nothing changed there. There are no additional slots on PTR right now.

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Premium has better rewards per their blog post than the free pass (guaranteed 600gs drops from chests, more xp boosts, etc). It’s not as egregious as games like Diablo Immortal or Lost Ark, but it’s still a paid in-game advantage. Not saying that has to matter to you or anyone else, but it does to me.

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The rewards are not the same, you get guaranteed legendary drops from the paid pass (i.e. they removed RNG), more boosts and coin, more consumables, etc.

It won’t let a casual player pay to be better than a top tier player. However, it will let a casual player pay to be better than another casual player.

Totally understand that some people will not have a problem with this level of monetization, but I do. “Better than Diablo Immortal” is not my standard for a good game.

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It’s not an assumption that you can buy power, you can read about the rewards for the premium pass in their post. You get guaranteed 600gs gear, more consumables, etc compared to the free pass. That is bought power.

Let’s say that they do 10 free wardrobe slots (currently it’s 3 on PTR but let’s say it changes to 10). Let’s count out how many sets we have assuming you play only the same weapons, same stats, and never switch between light, medium and heavy builds:

  1. PVP (assuming you only have one set, which if you PVP you know is not realistic)
  2. Ancient Ward
  3. Corrupted Ward
  4. Angry Earth Ward
  5. Lost Ward
  6. Beast Ward (this has been confirmed to be coming)
  7. Logging
  8. Mining
  9. Fishing (at least one, most people have multiple depending on what they’re fishing for)
  10. Harvesting
  11. Skinning
  12. Engineering
  13. Jewelcrafting
  14. Weaponsmithing
  15. Armoring
  16. Arcana
  17. Cooking
  18. Acid resistance

So that’s at least 8 slots you’d have to buy to have a set for every activity. Again assuming you run the same weapons, the same armor class, and the same stats every time you do those activities (no swapping between ranged and melee, mage and healer, etc). And assuming that you don’t ever fish for specific fish like oysters that require a mix of different fishing gear to prevent yourself from going above the right luck threshold.

That is pay for convenience.

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For the amount of time players have put up with horrible gear management, gear sets should be totally free. It’s like a basic QoL feature in an MMO on top of that.

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Better as in barely to be quite honest. The free pass has guaranteed 600’s, it has exp boosts, it has basically almost everything that the premium pass has with the exception of packs with 3x T5 mats instead of 10x T4 mats. It’s actually barely different. You get the premium pass you just get more stuff that doesn’t actually help you along all that much.

Yea you need reason to pay for it. But same items can be obtained by playing game. That why its not pay to win. They are not better than what you can get by playing game and they are limited no matter how much $ you would like to spend.

I find the gear set switching feature not very useful for me because most of the time I switch gear is to refine asmodeum, runic leather, phoenixweave. So it really provides little value to me and so I don’t care about it because it will not save me any time. It really only helps people with multiple PVE sets but then to help with that you would need at least 3 gear sets.

I’m not a fan of season pass.

I would rather they receive income from skins, but they can’t design any skins people really want to buy.

Putting more effort into skins and emotes should have been the play from the outset.

Having said that, the way they implemented season pass for season 1 at least is not noticeably p2w at all. I’m just not a fan of it on principle.

You know absolutely nothing about perk combinations and actual useful gear if you think any of the items from paid pass are good. LMfaooo theyre almost all salvage

I understand that perspective. I just disagree that we shouldn’t care about it.

Will the person who buys the pass get BIS gear? No. Realistically, most of us on these forums earn more coin, more umbral shards, better gear, more consumables, etc in a week than they’ll get all season from the pass. But not everyone puts that sort of time in the game.

For casuals, this means that they could spend a 50 hours playing the game over the course of the season (~50 hours is the dev’s estimated time for completion of season activities), only for someone who did the same as them to swipe their credit card that same day and instantly overtake them.

That’s not okay with me. Is it as bad a pay-to-win mechanic as other MMOs? No. In comparison, you can literally buy infinite gold in WoW thanks to the tokens. But just because it’s not as bad, doesn’t mean it’s good.

“overtake them” and still only get slightly more than what normal players have. This is the most asinine complaint ive seen in these forums bruh chill

The forums are not an exit interview. I feel all these things are just shouts for personal attention.

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These forums are a place for feedback. I offered mine. You are free to offer yours and to disagree with mine. There’s no need to offer personal insults because you disagree with me.

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Omg here comes the P2W crying again… its always like this… as soon a developer introduces something to buy… ppl cry P2W… everyone can get shards… paid or not… if i buy them and got a little extra or not and get them anyways…

Gearslots are perfect… you have pay up if you want some luxurious stuff… nothing wrong with that. find me one game that doesnt want to earn money on stuff ppl think it should be free… its everywhere…

And while we are at it… ppl can still buy gold thru illegal sites… and get the best gear instantly from trading post… we should worry about that :wink:

Just saying what i think… no offense

I buy all. bcs its cheap… and i can… ty AGS
(unlocking 20 premium pass rewards feels good)

If it’s not too late… Can I plz haz ur coin before u leave!!!