ice is in a much better spot than fire even though ice got nerfed hard
basically this, if icespike registers properly. spike has a bad hitbox rn, but the damage dump is pretty crazy, which is fine because it takes setup.
fire though is a meme atm
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it’s just really really bad against medium/heavy armor stacking resil/aversion/gems. It’s actually complete trash, and still, the base damage is just too low. Glass cannon fire is terrible compared to any other glass cannon build.
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i still play fire/ig occasionally, medium armor fireball/unending thaw rest resilient, i can near top damage in opr and war, beat almost every build in a duel
but i dont feel that relevant to accomplishing kills, so i switched to healing and IG/VG maybe GA/VG
i think we are slightly overtuned last couple patches but no need to cry at all
OFC you near top damage, 70% of that is from ice aoe. I also use fire/ice in opr and in a good game I can rack about 750k damage average. If I just use fire/rapier that falls to about 300-400k, which is extremely low. Probably about 250-280k is fire damage and the rest is rapier.
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yes its silly, i average 85 to 90, sometimes 120k in opr if i pump ice storm on cd.
also our top damage in war (3mills) plays a meme ice build with pylon/spike/storm to be able to drop storm in a 6 sec cds.
in a perfect world i would like to see that they buff the circle(range) of pillar of fire(or a complete redesign to kinda like a wall of fire that you shoot from yourself and pushes away in a line), reduce base fireball damage but make it can crit, a slight overall damage boost in fire, bring down punishing icestorm damage boost to 3% and reduce ice shower cd to 20 seconds, 3 second internal cd to heavy freeze
but its defnitely 100% playable rn
that would be nice
honestly after all the nerfs base damage is terrible and would be fine, white dmg fireball with 400 int does like 1.*k against light armor.
it’s playable but it feels terrible.
There is a build out there that works. I have 10% elemental resistance from gems with 4 pieces of resilience and I get hit for almost 3k from heavy attacks. They are not squishy either. I don’t know what these fire staff players do, but it works.
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VG/IG isn’t fun to play, it’s just forcing meta.
the IG is in a great state atm i dont know what people smoking is meta in my server and cheese.
the FS while not in the best shape is still a powerhouse if used by experience players, im guessing you dont use abilities after basic or heavy if you did you can easily put out 3k dmg in a sec.
I have 15% phys resistance with 3 pieces of resil and I get hit for over 3k musket shots 
If they aren’t squishy, it’s because damage scaling on INT is terrible. There really is no reason to go above 300 int or maybe even 250, so most mages go 150 or 200 con and get the -10% crit / +20% armor con perk at the expense of, barely lost damage. They’ll go medium armor too because the damage loss from light isn’t worth being squishy. I’m 50con/400 int but i’m built for more 1v1’s or 1v2’s and focus on avoiding taking damage at the gain of insignificantly more damage, but I choose more damage because i’m essentially wasting damage if I’m avoiding hits and hitting my shots.
tldr the damage loss from glass cannon vs tankier build is actually low loss and is actually stupid.
The FS is a power house how? Give me one example.
You are just wrong lol. Only thing good about FS is the burnout skill.
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IG/FS is one of best burst build now with best survivability.
Dont know how this should be possible. Hitting like 1,4-1,6 with 2k crit and i would say have above average gear
According to this video…
Fire staffs aren’t shitty at all… I just think you don’t know how to play it very well.
Sorry, but it looks like casual server with casual noobs in light armor withour resilient
Oh so you don’t know… ok thanks for clarifying 
no idea why you are invested in the conversation. $10 says you main GA/hammer.
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Try light armor and perks for fire skills on your armor. Use buffs as many do in opr and you will be fine
VG/IG is the highest burn in the game currently…lol, aside from penetrating shot, but that’s only one hit.
he’s playing fire/ice dude, lmao. Let him make the same video without ice. Surely he won’t be 1v2 1v3ing without it. Don’t link rando YT vids to fabricate. If I used fire/VG and got all my kills with VG i wouldn’t call FS good. Ice is good, fire alone is garbage.
He’s also getting some 3.5k crits against 5 con/low resil light armor, big deal. Every other ranged weapon hits higher than that. Musket crits over 4k against low resil.
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Lol you are cute.
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