First of all, that firestaff is not remotely close to BIS, even for genesis.
But I have to agree, for almost every expedition the firestaff gets outshined by spear/hatchet or GA.
Sure it’s fun to finish in < 14 mins, but after speed running Gen for a while, it gets boring. So I don’t blame people for trying to run different “efficient” builds for M10s.
Fire/ice are really weak in PvE. Void can be used as a support weapon and ice is strong in barnacles and fire staff is okay in genesis. That’s about it. Meanwhile you can use the likes of GA/WH in every content
Nothing bad about being ESL. Just a waste of time arguing with someone across a language barrier.
No need to play the victim.
Yeah no worry i would rather say the same against ppl with no better argument like right now.
No need to trying acting smart, nobody is born all knowing. I got you 
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Literally no one is against FS users. I use FS too, what’s your point? You’re just being uptight about a build(?) that anyone can replicate.
You’re elitist because you think that you’re build is some highly regarded well kept secret and that you shouldn’t share it with people.
Being non-native speaker is a non-issue either, I’ve discussed things with a lot of non-native speaker ( I am a non-native english speaker as well) and they were more social than you are.
Now you’re reporting people for being off-topic? Nah bruh we are on topic cuz this topic’s about YOU. Your attitude stinks, that’s all. FS is still a strong team-playing weapon.
Yeah and i never said anyone is against FS i just said that ppl are segregators about FS users and that it does much more damage then a hatchet if used/builded right. And to add to that i said that dont be simple minded and ask for the build and said be creative because you people can do it too. But hey if you do deserfication dont really know why your feelings are hurt here.
Thats pretty d***b assumption and pretty much answer in the first quote.
Well first you make fun of how i speak and now you are trying to say that you spoke to many ppl and that you are social? did you see your first post which refuted mine? again you got hurts feelings without me even addressing anything to you.
This is how it went you quoted something that it hurt you feelings, said i am elitist and sai to get the f out, if that is the best way to be social then my man… kudos! while i say that i and my friends make a build which can outdps a hatchet in genisis i even say to not be simple minded to avoid of “make me prove it” (because it happens alot), so yeah if im guilty here is of being too premature? yeah thats the word or maybe “precocious” fits better, and then said be creative and do something different because many times we humans beings just like to do things that we are already used to even I only play mage builds in this game because i dont like other weps, but that doesn’t mean i segregate them because they dont do damage, if i have to segregate ppl it would be because they die in a expedition that they did like 1000x and that triggers me alot, because i can’t understand it, but i dont usually go to being anti social when it happen eithers i just get mad and mostly be quiet. But if the person who is dieng start to talk shit then i will start getting real triggered and start shouting at him.
What i hate most is d**b ppl doing stuff and actually trying to lecture when they are in the wrong.
Ofc i am, ppl reported me for being off topic or inaproprieate why wouldn’t i do the same for a better community? if it wasn’t you I already asked for one of you guys to take this all to the private message, but none did it, so again why trying to talk superior if you cant do it even yourself?
Edit: Oh yeah and about the language barrier is funny using that as an argument because once you are answering me and i answering you i could imagine that everything is fine for both understanding, thats why i think you guys are pretty db and want to deny it saying more db stuff, if you would know what real language barrier is you would know is a pain.
Just saying since prolly the guy did not understand what was he talking about.
Kudos bro, you really need it. Till your next message byeeee.
PS: ofc im all hears in private message feel free to continue this discussion there. I am pretty sure we are off topic.
Nah I won’t spend any more time than this, it was already a mistake to start. You clearly aren’t understanding what I’m saying and refuse to acknowledge it. So i’ll just condense my final reply since you’re a lost cause.
Bye.
My bad, but clearly on my point of view you are the one who does not understand what i am talking, and prolly is happening because of lack of some fundamental of understanding that you yourself cant see yourself being dumb and with stupid arguments or better say HYPOCRITICAL, which is try to be a superior or a white knight or to be basic and simple for you understand which is = SMARTASS and failed, because you were doing the exact thing you where demonishing.
I am deeply sorry.
Great that it ends now.
Sorry for the viewers to read these type of stuff it isn’t cool for community health.
Ciao!
you are for sure making fun of him lol. The first word in your post is “No”
i use firestaff and hatchet both. depends on my mood. just gotta learn about builds and you can do good damage with any of them
my usual runs with my group are 10-13 minutes. average 12 minutes. with any of those weapons.
You just can’t beat the damage output in gen with grav well and great axe attacks on clumps of mobs. It just destroys them.
In no way is FS beating hatchet in terms of dps in genisis.
It would have to be a mediocre hatchet vs a glass cannon fire staff with bane to even come close.
Add in a hellfire mutation and FS is so far from even being feasible at that point.
Ive said this since day one with mutations it shouldnt be entirely about making an expedition harder but can and should mix up the meta.
Personality Crisis - a mutation where creatures of certain types take damage as if another certain type but keep their creature type. Imagine Lazarus mutated with PC and the Ancient resistance profile that week works like Corrupted.
Neutralizing - imagine a mutator where every creature in the dungeon is considered neutral to all damage types.
Eagle Eye - you take damage based on your distance from the enemy.
Unnatural - enemies have 3m zones around them that reduces healing by 50%.
Eye of the storm - a player is choosen at random and deals 10% more damage while active other players more than 8m away can not be healed.
Ofc there is and for sure it happens
but i concur that with fire mutation fire staff can lack power, but not enough to not make the dungeons happen and get that 6000 umbrals, i mean how many times i keep getting the damn aggroo in fire mutations with fire staff is insane and annoying at that, but ofc that with random and mediocre ppl, with the big guns no matter what the mobs wont aggroo to any dps if you are a good tanker, but thats not the points anyway.
Like i said a mutated 10 fire lazarus is possible with 3 fire staff users and with 5-10ish min to spare.
Since i only play mage mostly my team doesn’t even care if there is a fire mutation happening we just do it normally.
damn… this is all good idea, AGS should listen to this lmao.
I don’t like the system too. What at least should be done, in my opinion, is nerfing the resistances and damage boosts so you can reliably play whatever but get a little bonus for minmaxing.
But affixes like 70% less damage type XY is ridiculous, especially considering it only applies to magic. Where are the slash/thrust and strike mutations?
Getting gold with any weapon build on most mutations isn’t very hard…
The whole point was people don’t want to bring FS users in pugs because Hatcher users are the safe bet and people want a fast efficient run.
PVE is the most boring thing in this game so I want it over with as fast as possible so I will bring the composition that saves me any possible time from pulling my eyes out of my head with how mundane mutation grinding is.
In MMOs that give this many choices to the player the player will almost always choose the path of least resistance in dungeons.
Mages exist to be an utility/oblivion bot in higher mutes currently, they get screwed over depending on the element that is active on the week.
When the stars align and the mute element is cooperating with the monster type (gen without fire mute), they end up as second rate DPS compared to stuff like hatchet/spear unless they are playing something risky like rapier/ig or vg (in laz or corrupted dungeons) with 5 con then they outshine the rest of the DPSes.
Mages are not in a great spot right now in high mutes, most PUG group with LIMITED runs will pick an average melee over a mage when recruiting unknown members into their groups.
Sure and nothing wrong with that.
But what i am saying 3 fire staff users just dont do genisis in 5 min because of walking and the dungeons mechanics.
There is no denying it because i do it everytime there is a genisis mutation, it takes a slight more time when is fire mutation, but nothing much.
And like i said when i was arguing off topic, people can actually do and use what they prefer as wep of choice and actually do alot damage and do the expedition fast, but what can’t keep happening is dieng all the time like you are new to the expedition.
How many times i went laz with fire staff and ppl were whining because of it and same ppl did not stop dieng to the stupid mobs? it is incomprehensible for me to that happen.
And i got to refute about the PVE, because PVE is the only thing that actually saves this game, while the combat is great the pvp of this game is just garbage, and no it is not because i suck at it, it is just because it really is. But sure in that matter it is just my opinion your opinion everybody opinions and lets just leave it at that.
Hell i remember ppl saying that Musket is bad in isabella and we got a random musket user, and my teammate tank (in the early days with not so complete build) wasn’t able to keep the aggroo against the musket and we were WOOOW this guy build must be insane, even our bow users/spear were not able to get aggro from it, ofc it was our early days, but still it was insane.
Hell even i went already with a random ice gauntlet user in isabela and the dungeon went smoothly because he was a good player, but also went with someone (ice gauntlet as well) who just kept dieng and actually saying we are having difficulties because of my fire staff lmao
I dissagree, mutators should force you to play differently.
As i said i agree but i wouldnt take out the resist.
I would consider adding weapon gems for str that convert damage type like int gems for physical damage. Then limit conversions to int gems for magic damage weapons and str gems for physical.
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