Fix arena main issue

Main issues are healers on solo q arena. Combined with duo its broken and not fun.
Lot of top players abuse this to farm leaderboard stats.

Fact they can run with healer they have voice come with allows them to run builds that wont work in any other case. They are almost immportal with GS/Hatchet and other x/hatchet builds. Getting 8k crit gits from GS from dude that is 50 or 100con is not fun. Killing not possible. Defy death on top of op healing is broken.

This is my option as a player with 3k + hours in game.
And im curretly playing with firend that came back. Each time we see premade with healer he ask to afk to play next one. And he is right.

Issue can’t be ignored if you are planning to get back any plyaers that left.

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The healer build is made to heal massive amounts of damage, it is made to work in WARS

Unfortunately that same build for smaller environments is too strong and has too much healing. That’s why the healer is broken in OPR and ARENA.

The moment healers are removed from these game modes (opr, arena), one-sided combat will end.

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Healers might be less OP in the next update due to changes to fortify. I did have trouble killing them on the PTR, though.

Arenas should be solo queue and trio queue. No duos.

Btw, I’ve been running a 34 con GS/hatchet build and I only hit for around 4.5k or less most of the time. My GS is 625 with trenchant strikes and attunement.

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Odd. Since 6-8k crtits from gs do happens on arena. Dunno what builds this ppl are running but for sure it stats are splited and con is 100 max imho. But never tried to recreate it.

One or another way full dps focused build that has pocker healer is major issue on arena. Solo healer is very hard to deal with. But duo in nightmare.

What? 10 players left? There are still over 900 ,000 players still playing. The game is fine.

maybe either you or your friend should try playing healer and see that it really is the easiest class to play.

when 3 greatswords hit you with a relentless rush.

quick question: what exactly is stopping you from playing builds that specifically counter or outlast healers?
there is a mechanic in arenas that reduces healing to a negligible amount where it can easily be disregarded as time progresses further into each round.

maybe you should stop crying and work on the only factor that is true to be there every time you queue:
you, or both of you (your friend included)

EDIT: since i like playing support i’m going to help you out a bit here, just google KnightNi or try to inform yourself about the last 1v1 tournament winner on NA, hosted by TorikuToriku.

True some people even run arena with healer to get top 1 wins in arena !! There is no rewards in leaderboard, its just abusing things and people now dont even queue arena cause of that

this is exactly the reason why there is nothing to be mad about, really.

it’s just another “nerf healer” in disguise thread.

either get better and work on yourself or the people you queue with - or stop blaming others for doing so.

blame the system, not the player.

there is a dedicated 3v3 queue for “competitive” arena games.

the normal 3v3 queue mode is just a casual, lvl 60 pvp mode - like outpost rush.

if the game allows you to queue as 2 people and have a higher chance of winning, its not a player’s fault.

maybe you can try to make friends and queue with them too - then see for yourself how easy it is to play arena. i might have a suspicion that you won’t really like playing heal as that requires some kind of knowledge and awareness - if you don’t want to be a disadvantage to your team, that is.

I never liked they went for classic mmo roles in a classless system.

It might be necessary for PVE or largescale PVP, but i’d still rather have them ramp up lifesteal/leeching effects, while reworking lifestaff into a naturestaff damage/support type weapon. Maybe increasing potion heals or lifesteal effectiveness with their abilities?
Most weapons already have some selfheal/sustain built in their kit since launch.

The debuff in arenas they had to add to balance healer matches, hurt healing with potions or lifesteal way more than it does on lifestaff abilities.

I’m not hating healers, but they are basically playing a different game with tab target abilities. Also the reason why people tend to call it the “easiest build” in the game i’d guess.

Anyway i just realized i want this to be another game again.

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every healer worth their salt has asked to be able to do something as a healer, the design of the weapon is basically “well you heal so take the hits and heal harder”.

cc/any kind of defensive ability comes with a weapon of your choice as secondary.

there is no cc on the kit nor any way to actually reduce (incoming) damage or something like a root, slow, any kind of damage reduction that works on enemies, nothing.

lifestaff - by choice of design - is just a passive weapon that lets you not really participate and makes you just have to sit there and watch stuff happen.
in most other games that have any semblance of a competitiveness to them, there’s some kind of proactive play - new world only allows for reactive play, sadly.

Edit: I falsely claimed that there is no way of reducing incoming damage. This is not entirely true since there is a talent tree perk that gives you a 15% fortify after hitting an enemy with a light attack. For the sake of the argument I am clarifying this as it is not really a proactive use of actively negating damage or preventing an enemy from even damaging you like actual crown control abilities could do.

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It does not matter if its easy or hard to play. Healing is so strong in this game that can be abused and is abused on random q arenas. Killing a good healer does require 2 players with specific builds. You cant have that on random q arena. Thats why healers cant work on random q arenas. And allowing them to be played as part of duo is just broken.

So one has go away. Duos from arena or healers from solo q arena. They are ok if you have 3 man premades couse premades can have team composition that can kill healer. But you dont have that most of the time on solo q.

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we need this

So you recommend using a busted cc one shot combo to combat another broken aspect?

I regularly beat healers in arena, but there is little doubt in my mind that they wreck arenas. If you have a team with a healer vs one without you better hope their dps are sub par because if not losing, even to a bad team, is a very real possibility.

That’s the impact heals have in arena even when they are randomly queued.

Now, a war squad healer with a duo dps? Just afk cause you are never going to get the chance to do a cc chain or burst them.

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Ah yes, the classic “everyone just play GS if you can’t damage healers” response.

Fight one broken weapon with the other broken one. :laughing:

It does not have to be dps. You can try vs bruiser while healer also runs ss or wh. Amount of cc they have together is insane. You can’t get close to that healer with out risking cc to death.

And that duo bruiser/dps player can go all in into dps with 100con or even lower if they are top tier. Top tier player with top tier healer are unkillable on solo q arena unless other team is also 3x top tier players that happens to have compossition that can kill a healer.

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