Fix Wars/Invasions (Its killing the game!)

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This game is starting to become toxic, I know that before the game was ever released, during one of the talk vids, it was stated the Devs wanted to avoid a toxic elitist type of game, welp, its becoming elitist and was pretty much toxic from the start…

The elitist behavior which is causing people to quit the game, is because people cant get into invasions or wars unless they have an extremely high gear score (I have a GS of 599 so meh) But you got it so invasion leaders can freely kick and ban people from rosters, making it so they can LITERALLY pick only those they want, when its suppose to be they can only pick TEN (10)

Then you got the wars basically doing the same thing, if you dont have a high GS, they kick you, some servers are even forcing players to fill out google documents in order to take part in Wars and Invasions, this elitist behavior needs to be stopped, issue a statement publicly, in the launcher, not another video, but in the LAUNCHER saying this behavior is not condoned by AGS… because stating it in stupid videos posted on twitter, aint helping!

New players are not going to want to play a game where they get blocked from content!

Main issue is Invasions, War issue is secondary. (The only thing with wars that needs to be addressed is the issue revolving around players being forced to fill out google documents detailing their gear)

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another method on fixing this is to LOCK the kick function with Invasions or add in a voting system (Which might not really fix it, if the bulk who get in are from the same company) and as for the gear score crap, just remove the GEAR SCORE entirely from the game or hide it so no one can tell what their score is, this way people cant demand certain scores for invasions or even wars…

I can understand why people in war would ask for certain things, but invasions are ment to be completely random, aside from the 10 selected people, so giving players the options to kick people, promotes toxic/elitist behavior…

Case and point: Remove or hide GearScore/Expertise Average and disable the option to kick from invasions aside from the 10 selected, the 40 random should be just that, random

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they know abou this already since the start but have done nothing so its unlikely to change.
leaders can kick so they can do this over and over till their entire team is the group they want instead of just 10 people and random joes coming in.

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Invasions are almost impossible to win. I’ve been playing since release and only seen a win 3 times. If companies can’t be “elitist” then no invasions will ever be won again, and it will make defending pointless and many people will stop trying entirely.

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Right now unfortunately companies have very little to do and wars and invasions will not change much from their current state. Wars are meant to be company activity so regardless of gear score unless you have an alliance or are part of the warring company don’t expect to be in it.

Invasions are a little bit more convoluted. I think amazon tried to make it random and tried to make them a non company activity. However, the fact that the company have the most and only thing to lose during an invasion, whereas everybody else gets rewarded, and due to the difficulty it has led to randoms and non company members AFKing and griefing just for rewards.

Therefore, I believe that either:

  1. The whole roster should be picked by the company exactly like a war.
  2. There has to be punishment for people that don’t contribute to the invasion and or grief it.

Point one would be the easiest to implement but feeds into the elitist point you are making and I can’t really see point 2 working out it. I am totally fine with these to activities being company activities and then just add something else for the smaller companies and solo players.

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I am of the opinion that invasions should be a queue based form of content, sorta like a pve version of OPR

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^Agreed or flat out open world event that occurs on that territories fort @ specific time, rewards anyone participating in general radius of the fort.

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Due to the difficulty of Invasion it would be better to select the whole rooster and add an other PvE event with a queue for the high level territories like Shattered Mountain for example where waves of corrupted try to overrun the outposts.

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I have gotten 7 wins already with companies that have the same mentality as my own, you dont need to be a stuck up elitist snob to win an invasion, just gotta work together and use siege properly

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That’s exactly what an elitist would say while kicking 300 players from the lobby. Get real.

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who? Because in order to kick people, I would need to first own the territory OR have mod in the board, which, I have neither, the key is to use voice comes either in discord OR the in-game coms, while using siege and properly repairing doors, knowing how to use siege or repair a door is not something an elitist would say or do, since a monkey can do either of those two things, which would mean you sir, are the elitist and your simply trying to justify your means by claiming someone else is an elitist in order to cause arguments from others…

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Hate to break it to you . But most of the Devs are elitist as well . You came to a church to preach that God is not real.

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you claim the devs are elitist? proof? Because I recall they recently did a myrk run while undergeared, just to prove to the community that they do play the game… they failed horribly and died alot before giving up… elitist snobs wouldnt have even given the community any response to their “challenge” for the myrk run… if you have nothing constructive to add to the topic at hand, please dont bother replying.

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Unfortunately, your complaints are in direct response of the game mechanics. As long as the mechanics are the way they are, people will be handpicked for most wars and invasions so as to not downgrade/lose territories.

The only way to address your complaint is a complete overhaul of wars and invasions, which, probably won’t change, at least for a while…

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unfortunately the mechanic is being abused and was acknowledged by a community dev in another post, in regards to invasions being nitpicked, feel free to look up the post, because it was actually stated that something “Its being looked into” for the invasions, you are NOT suppose to be able to pick and choose beyond the 10 players it lets you pick. and I do believe it was @NW_Mugsy who made the comment, though I could be wrong

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Lol i am sorry I dared to speak here or play your elite game . You got proof all over the place dum dum . Just the fact that anything we ask for we don’t get or get a twisted version of. That they are sticking to their vision when it’s killing the game . When on forums we complain about technical problems and they tell us update drivers and do Steam fix . When the problems come from their side servers and engine .

But you are also an elitist , so what’s the point of talking to you ? Yes please send me an essay on how i am wrong .

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For starters, the invasion ui is garbage. The controlling company has 10 MOVES, really. It’s not even slots. The rest are auto-filled, and the owning company can’t do anything about it if they have already used their 10 moves.

So, I would suggest sign up early and sign up often.

Honestly, with the way it currently is with invasions, you can’t abuse it, because you can only move 10 times…

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that has nothing to do with being an elitist… I can go to rockstars forums and ask for cool military stuff 24/7, does not mean i will get it, that does not make R* an elitist, it simply means they have other things they wish to work on, the idea of the Suggestions And Feedback forums is not for you to argue about something completely off topic, so, please stick to the topic, that being elitist issues involving Wars and Invasions, nothing else.

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incorrect… you can slot in 10 people, then, ban those not in your company, and kick them from the roster, thus fully controlling who gets in, THIS is what people are doing… THIS is the issue that needs to be fixed SOON and not later…

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I felt the same way at first , but after realizing cost and maintenance cost to territory owners it is within their own right to decide who gets to help , I am not saying that anybody is incapable of doing said wars or invasions but failure to territory owners is crucial. That being said AGS should offer a counter part to each event to balance out endgame content . Also territory owners don’t always take their own prove yourself to them and see what happens .