For people thinking FS is OP

apologies for not doing it earlier, I see you have troubles reading still dodging questions making false statements that someone is delusional while proven multiple times its opposite)

Direct buffs
Meteor shower is now click and forget about it that can provide you extra empower no matter if you need it or don’t. Whit that solution you can get extra emp at any time and use it for any other ability you have. Meteor being “cast and forget” spell now is also great solution for triggering many other FS passives from both trees.
Pillar adjustment made this ability much easier to use meaning that your dmg output can be much higher.
Some passives were adjusted, For example useless mana regen in right tree was echanged for per that can give extra dmg output
Indirect buffs
Elimination of any risks for paper builds in this patch - more int more dps
Fortify changes

If you stop making attempts to make some ppl dumb by saying crap like 500 % emp or that FS can headshot and start to read you would know those point by now.

Yes I did. what I also did is that this random. I was not trying to squeeze very last juice here. At this point I am not able to say if all perks were triggered. In that scenario this stone could make a potential difference. Will it matter if the difference is 500 or 1k dmg? When the point was that you trigger all crap empower within 0,1 sec. and within that time frame you get very top dmg? It is much more demanding on any other class to achieve.

Most of the time you jump on OPR solo. Playing tank with CC capturing point will net you with 1k points while everyone else have 10k points. I agree that it will not help my team. But being useful <> having fun - I chose fun since win vs lose is 500 xp diff

Anyway, whatever. NOONE here try to prove that FS was not buffed at all. NOONE try to fight with number or arguments.
All I see here is taking random things, making them out of contest or even imagine them to personally atack dude that tried to prove hits point with some numbers and arguments.

You cant deny that this is a case here since 100 posts xD

After all those posts I hope I managed to somehow convince you that FS was buffed which was original question.

If my arguments do not convince you - maybe fact that everyone cry about 20 FS on OPR means something. I mean at least means a little something to all of you.

I wish that one day when I jump into arguments here someone will jump back trying to argue with logic and facts instead of doing 10 attempt in a row to discredit someone, make him look dumb etc.
I was trying to answer all of those bites providing quotes and explanations. It was met with more attempts only because I have a feeling that OP could not stand he/she/they are not right.

P.S I forgot to mention that now autos are also AOE which also adds to dmg

People really need to shut up about this lol. Not everyone is running fire damage ring, willing to say most dont have it, most people are not running helios it still sucks and not everyone has best honing stones either most dont.

So yeah the free 10 empower from meteor that you can have up again and again cuz the CD is low, is useful for sure. He isn’t wrong about that part.

He is wrong about everything else, and showing numbers on a bear is really dumb.

On what do you suggest to show numbers then? I said 10 times why I did that. Haven’t heard what is commonly accepted methology so far

On players lmao what the hell else.

@PijanyMnich dude, you’re 100% right, but you can’t tell people who see what you want to see. :slight_smile:

The game took damage from the base, resulting in 14k player losses.
FS used to be balanced, now it’s out of control.
Your ideas arising from your incompetence do not change the truth.
the game is dieing.
it’s because of BoW,FS and other stupid changes.

AGS unfortunately will not save this game, merge and event.
balancing it will save the game and you should do it right away.

So you are saying that when we want to see both weapons capabilities.
We take target that has no resist (this bear probably still has some)
And we show on that test that weapon A is capable to spin 10k DMG within 1/2 sec and weapon B is only capable of spinning 5k is bad test?
At the end of the day we can apply lets say 50% resist to both and we land in 5k vs 2,5k. Proably we can add argument about “with AOE and with no AOE” here as well.

Why would you try to measure all possible resist combinations here.

EDIT: I cant think of anything more reliable and yes from time to time you meet 5 con players. It not that uncommon. It still dos not change fact that this 5 con player will be hit 5k with weapon A and only 2,5k with wepon B

Yes but even if you aren’t, you’re still empower capping yourself with meteor perk. Meteor perk is still good but it’s bad to resolve your entire build on it with both keenly empowered and meteor perk on the staff as the other person was stating. You’re losing a ton of damage.

Sure but everyone is eventually trying to be bis It’s best to talk about empower as someone who has the best gear the best honing stone because in competitive pvp that’s what you use, still weak honing stones are super cheap give only 3% less empower then the best.

Runes of helios is great idk why anyone wouldn’t run it there is no other last passive that outdoes 20% empower as the fight starts you get really good burst.
The other person was neglecting the 50% empower cap saying the fire staff is broken now because of the change completing ignoring he was way over capping himself.

You believe I cap myself. I believe that because of that I have much larger time frame when I am at cap.*

EDIT: + you can do it in very very short time period

Going back to topic question was if FS was buffed in any way.
I would say that making it easier to be on constant cap or exciding it more easily is one of the buffs.

Do you agree?

It’s not good because unless your being a stat padding turret mage you only get the one skill from it. Nobody is standing still in that ring for a real fight.

I’ll take this passive setup over Helios any day.

It was already like this before season 1 this change isn’t that different at all. Meteor perk before season 1 refreshed as you got your empower stacks and it lasted 10 seconds.

Now meteor doesn’t refresh the empower stacks and last 6 seconds. Each hit will give the empower and the timer starts for each empower stack.

I don’t see at all how this is what’s making fire staff OP. There are other things that have buffed the fire staff way more. You’re losing so much damage going with meteor perk on the staff with keenly empowered.

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Brother you know now the 10% fortification on smolder target does nothing for a light player if you’re versing someone with Invig and any good pvper currently has an invig ring even in medium it’s not viable enough. You’re trading off that for 20% extra damage for 7 seconds with only downtime of 23 seconds which always procs at the start of a fight.

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If you are standing in runes of helios for 7 seconds during pvp, you aren’t worth discussing pvp with. It doesn’t always proc at the start of a fight since burnout procs it you might have wasted it just for mobility.

You’re telling me you can’t get a single combo off with fireball and pillar? I can’t change your mind and I’m trying to get convinced by your argument but it’s still just false for me so I’m gonna stop.

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@PijanyMnich is musket player that is sad he cant farm ppl any more as before so he is spamming all mage related topics making up numbers and facts.

I still wait for his clip to prove mage can 2 shot anyone on arena.

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When you are fighting a skilled player (or as is common for me fighting 1+ while getting ranged by 3 others) you don’t get to cast 2 spells from one spot, you gotta be moving with FS especially if you are against melee or another mage whos trying to pillar you.

This is one off - more examples somewhere above.

@halfik still waiting for your screenshot where you can see ma writing that you can just 2 tap everyone on arena
also waiting for your screenshot with BIS EQ 200 con where you get 2/3 taped by musket
also I provided example above that you can squeeze at least 5,3k hit on NO resist player, 5 con players have around 7k hp - do math

also since musket was deleted I am FS MAIN now xD you know that you dont have to blindly support “your weapon”. I can play it and still claim its OP overall

Now while all of you again try to prove me idiot saying that metor shower is crap and all. Just finished another OPR and you know what? Guess where the other 20 FS player are here:

You can tell by your stats you are hiding behind your clump padding with AOE. Not exactly proving anything here.

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I am glad that experienced FS player like you go melee mode.
Proving only that it is not that bad as you all experts claim.
Still no evidence that FS was not buffed :slight_smile: