Forced to melee or GTFO

So my friends had an intervention.

Sat me down and told me if i want to continue running expeditions with them i need to respec melee dps and they never want to hear my musket again.

So now i am a sad panda. Been snoring through expeditions spamming LMB doing mediocre damage but at least its cleaves and rends. This is boring AF. Just stand behind boss and lmb.

I am considering …

A) Finding new friends.
B) Giving up on new world.

Screw you AGS. You have no idea how to design an engaging MMO where everyone can have fun.

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Definitely find some new friends. Or just tell em to fuck off and run your musket.

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Sadly with how musket is, yeah its the least desired weapon in just about every scenario that isn’t PvP. I personally made a spear/bow setup just for expeditions cause of this. However it was my personal choice. Honestly id say find new friends cause they should pressure you off what you enjoy and have you set back just to have a new set. But tbh, if your gear isn’t fully mixed or all int, going bow/spear isn’t hard.

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You have to understand that to be able to push and get better you will need few different set ups.

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Oh its not hard at all. I just dont enjoy the brainlessness of lmb spam. Not too bothered about re-gearing. Just dont like the play style.

Not one melee weapon is really engaging. Just spam whatever rend ability you have when its off cd and click click click.

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Usually I’d be saying play what you love but musket is sadly completely useless in dungeons :confused:

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Yeah I feel ya on that. Musket/Rapier has been my weapon choice since day 1. Some variations of melee have popped up that ive tried but yeah, nothing has really clicked. I was really hoping for daggers but got blundy instead XD Spear is probably my next favorite weapon though since it does have a little play on movement and such. At least how I play it so I always have everything off CD

New World was coded around the fact that anyone can switch stat/class in less than 30sec to play anything that would “fit” better for any activity you are up to.

If you dont understand that Musket is usless in Expedition, and to change that and be helpfull you just have to use a spear, without even respect your atribute, well, yes i suggest you to giving up on NW, cuz clearly you dont get the “spirit” of this game.

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Give Throwing Hatchet w/ Sundering Javelin Spear backbar a try. Damage is nice, the debuffs you provide are bussin, and the playstyle is very fun. Hatchet is prob the most fun weapon between the melee and ranged framework.

You probably doing pretty good damage still with Musket though, correct? If you can find a musket with Empowered Shooter’s Stance on it that might make things change for the better. PvE ain’t something I would get mad about in NW. Currently, it is all designed around being very fun while permitting players to feel OP without balancing downsides to worry about. Efficiency sometimes matters, but if you’re getting the job done and staying on your feet, I consider that a win.

Are you talking M10s or are you just doing normal expeditions?

I say play your way.

There are ways to make even non preferred weapons do respectable damage and DPS, so i would at the very least do what you need to achieve that. Gems, perks, banes, coatings, sharpening.

If you are on top of your game, and perked for maximum output, and avoiding the mechanics, popping the targets when needed. Then everyone else is the problem.

I run non preferred weapons in many scenarios, and in many cases i out dps many who are using preferred ones. And i change often, but i’m always maxed on all achievable increases.

This game is unique in that many of the fights are not straight DPS races due to having to block, dodge and reposition, avoid mechanics.

Often times, the weapon with the most inherent damage from weakness will have less opportunity from the sheer level of repositioning and avoidance. Where a not preferred weapon will have an abundance of uptime. (Dead DPS is 0 DPS.)

Keep in mind that doesn’t take into account certain weapon abilities that are used for clumping or more party centric. Utility is also an aspect that does need considering for a secondary.

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We have been doing M2 to M5.

I havent really had problems so far.

I use spear or hatchet or even hammer (without respeccing) on trash, and use musket on most bosses. Mostly because single target plus headshots is pretty decent damage. Thats why you carry two weapons. Right?

I just find it strange to be completely banned from ranged even on single target encounters. Especially given musket does 1 5x to 2x damage of most melee weapons (except hatchet).

Even standing behind boss and backstabbing, i dont do half the damage i do with headshots. Its also boring AF.

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Ah. I can’t speak to mutations, but I use Blunderbuss exclusively in vanilla expeditions and it works out fine for damage. Maybe see if they are okay with that? It’s not a click spam weapon. Ability use is frequent.

For example if you bring a musket in genesis you are trolling your friends as angry earth are resistant to trhust damage.

Most meele build will OUTDPS you, for exaple in Genesis Hatchet can deal from 5k to 8k a hit, with the proper setup and build, and with the speed of attack of hacthet, yeah no way you outdps that with musket.

Other then that, meele build have more CC and for some dungeon is a must.

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On paper. In reality its a completely different story.

Between the 400 gold forced respec
The perks on armor
The stats on armor
The expertise level on armor and weapons
The expertise applied to armor and weapons
and all of this being a fairly lengthy grind…this is simply not how the game plays out.

So while that may be the “spirit” of the game, the reality is completely different. And frankly, they should add alts so we can kit out a toon in specific ways.

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Musket is garbage for pve, just the way it is (1900ish hours of my 2300ish overall is with musket)

I dont buy this. A musket with ruby gem and 150 int is actually doing more damage despite a percentage of your damage being thrust. The fire half us doing 40% more damage and you have 15% bonus elemental damage.

You will have to explain to me in small words how you are doing less damage.

hatchet 7k ligth attack
light attack chain 3 attack

around 21k damage with the light attack chain that is waht 1.5 second long?

Can you do more damage in less time?

So everyone should only run hatchet and nothing else?

The thing is with the spear you will do 12k in that time, how much you will do with a musket?