Forgotten Vow or Smooth Bone Ring

Which one do you guys like better for GA/Hammer

Smooth bone personally but really don’t play
play strength. I think it depends on what you are doing as well.

Are you applying a ton of weaken? Do you hit empowerment cap easy? The slash damage counts towards empowerment cap oddly enough so something to consider. Also, are you mostly using GA? Hammer? Do crits mean much for you? For instance in PVP against resil meta you might not care as much, while in PVE it’s much not important. Just some things to consider I suppose.

No idea, spear/bow guy here, bored, playing a new build. I have both rings, Forgotten Vow maxed to 25 but Smooth bone ring 600. I use GA and Blackguard hammer.

Smooth bone ring here due to keen leeching. It does make a difference if you’re medium. Leeching heals you for around 100 per hit on most weapons.

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Hmm maybe we will get some other good voices here that can speak more to PVP. I also really don’t know GA/WH too well either, but hopefully this info well help you decide for yourself if no one else chimes in. First determine if those weapons hits empowerment cap easy. For instance this is why keenly empowered, which is good on most weapons, is bad on void gauntlet because it caps easy without it and it’s wasted. What attacks cause weaken? Check the math, is +14% of that duration valuable? Is that 2 extra seconds? 4 seconds? Whatever it is, is it worth losing lifesteal?

For PVE, smoothbone to me is a no brainier but for PVP I do know that crit perks on weapons for some are considered dead perks in the right meta. So maybe Vow is good there?

FYI I’m wearing heavy Conqueror’s Set from the new dungeon. The Forgotten Vow is also from the new dungeon.

100 doesn’t do me any good on M10s honestly. 1000 maybe. I’m more curious about the crit chance…

Smooth bone ring: Extra dodge + damage

Both have the extra dodge though so it’s really comparing the other two perks.

Oh, I was referencing PvP. PvE it’s meh, but in PvP it helps a bit. Add in a Regen Potion and Lifesteal you sustain quite a bit. I run GA Hatchet so it’s like 400 health every 3 seconds and GA is 300 health per two swings along with massive AOE leeching on maelstrom and G Well.

Yeah, keen leeching for crits and sustain over 5% damage, which isn’t bad if you add in crit multiplier, and a longer enfeebling maelstrom.

If I had to have 3 perks I’d get rid of hearty though and add the slash damage. In a medium build you don’t get too much benefit from it compared to light and heavy at 40 stamina per dodge vs 50.

If I ran a medium Dex build I’d prefer hearty though. 30 stamina and that extra 10 puts you only 10 from another dodge roll. Most the time in medium I have 20 or so stamina on my last roll if I’m forced to use it, so only half the time does it ACTUALLY give me an extra roll.

so which one

is slash damage better than keen awareness

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