We that have played since release know that is have been many dupes that have had one kind of effect on the game. Sure that effect can be discussed but there is still there.
Also the fresh server would be hell of fun for players that want to do open world pvp when all are about the same strenght the first few weeks atleast.
Also changes to war would make it harder for one company to own and hold many lands for long time. On live servers there is company with many shell company just to hold and store gold. Gold has no value at all and PvP in generall is almost on a P2W stage.
Thatās common knowledge, it had an effect but the question is to what extent? Can you quantify how much it has damaged the economy? Unless you can provide concrete evidence we canāt really determine to what extent the damage has been done, and if it still exists to this day.
What happens if someone starts late then? What if the server starts getting older, and more and more players are left behind by the no-lifers? Your suggestion is simply a band-aid solution and not an actual fix. Youāre still not fixing the actual problem, which is the incentive to do open world PVP.
That is why there has to be a change to how territories are held, even at live servers. These issues will solve themselves after a few months when the patch drops. Asking for new servers w/o transfer is not a solution, a full company with full war experience and know how can just roll over that same server and itāll be the same thing all over again.
Honestly this is what I feel like people want, they want fresh servers so they can feel like the best in the server.
No one can provide that evidence you are asking for. i heard rumors that there is still duped azmodium on Barri from a player that duped it.
If that is true or not i dont know.
What happens if someone starts late then? What if the server starts getting older, and more and more players are left behind by the no-lifers?
This is always the case on any games with servers. But its still going to be better with a 1 month old server then a one year old server.
That is why there has to be a change to how territories are held, even at live servers. These issues will solve themselves after a few months when the patch drops
Those changes are comming in the next big patch. Its not a perfect solution but its far better then nothing
I think consensus is a fresh start during the big update in October. Territory income revamp. Sheāll companies disabled and a new levelling experience
Those who like low-pop servers (i mean in general, with whatever mmo you play) - you are the minority. You donāt account for large enough % to get your own rust server.
Brimstone update will attract more returning players than new. Most will stay on the server their existing char already on. Either way, not alot want to play a po-dunk bot-only server named Wilson.
Fresh servers but also lock transfering out of that server and never merge it to current ones. All these fresh server fans will quit the game in 1 weeks after BS launch imagine seeing all the hype and talk about new zone and content on forums and reddit meanwhile theyāre struggling past level 30. They wanna roll some BIS gear or craft new stuff released in BS but there is like 200 asmo on whole market and its expensive AF basically everything end game mats and trophies is either non existent or very rare and expensive. Devs please start fresh servers with above condition it will be alot of fun seeing their cries in forums
Great question(s), weāre unable to fully quantify this and can only provide anecdotal evidence to justify it. I would argue, however, that we are able to see the effects of this by looking at how easily companies are able to seemingly adjust to the meta - through millions of liquid gold hoarded over months of broken gameplay. Isnāt concrete evidence, but circumstantial.
I agree these are two different things. Fresh servers donāt fix open world PvP itās just a bonus bit of fun & no-lifers will always triumph. However, other no-lifers that quit due to bad world would definitely jump in at a chance to no-life the game again in its fixed state.
While I do not doubt that there is a population of people who have this mindset, the main reason Iād like fresh servers is to bring back a portion of the sweaty player-base that left on launch. Freshens up the competitive scene with the incentive of a clean slate.
The existing players do hold an advantage in experience and knowledge, but with the level of resources on the internet available e.g. NWDB, Youtube, Discords, Twitch etc the returning players who are looking to sweat wonāt have to look far to find out metas and how to play - NW isnāt rocket science fortunately.
Only now, when the meta switches, everyone will be in the same boat and wonāt have a treasure trove to withdraw from when a new PvP perk drops. This treasure trove availability may increase as time goes on (without a doubt) but the wealth held by the ā1%ā at the moment has been bled from a broken game - hence a lot of sweaty people wonāt bother attempting to return unless there are fresh servers.
Exactly, I donāt condone it in anyway but everyone has to stop focusing on this as if itās the ONLY driving force for them.
Even you agree on what Iām saying, and maybe itāll be better than a 1 yr old server but at the moment AGS has to focus on things for now. There are higher priority things they need to address, Fresh start servers can come after everything has been revamped.
And I hope these changes keep on coming, once everything has been ironed out then we can talk about fresh start. But for now itās better for them to focus on making the game better.
Exactly, I donāt condone it in anyway but everyone has to stop focusing on this as if itās the ONLY driving force for them.
So easy to say, but how do you focusing on a problem that effects the entire economy of the game?
Even you agree on what Iām saying, and maybe itāll be better than a 1 yr old server but at the moment AGS has to focus on things for now. There are higher priority things they need to address, Fresh start servers can come after everything has been revamped.
Ofcourse. Stateing that all returning players are going to stay to the death of the game is just a foolish statement and we all know this is not true. Gamer switch game, its in our nature. But ignoring them and dont provide wanted services and content is not going to increase the amount of gamers. Its same in all type of businesses.
And I hope these changes keep on coming, once everything has been ironed out then we can talk about fresh start. But for now itās better for them to focus on making the game better.
Agree on the first part. But there is nothing that points to that they cant both provide more servers (or types of servers) and continue making the game better.
Are you sure thatās from exploited gold or from territory ownerships? And which companies are you talking about from which servers? I wonāt disagree that there are people hoarding gold, my company mems are doing the same (they earned it legit).
Maybe, but as a person who has 2k hours, the sheer amount of effort needed to restart again and grind to the top is something I cannot afford. Itās just not worth it, and Iām pretty sure a lot of no-lifers feel the same.
Nothing is going to bring them back but themselves. Once someone moves on from a game, itāll be hard for them to return. But if you really wanna persuade them, add the fresh start servers after everything else has been done and adjusted, after New World gets out of beta phase.
Cross-server PVP instances can fix this, better work on that instead.
Thereās a difference between playing a meta, and someone playing a specific weapon combo for 1k hours. You can use all the meta you want but nothing will beat experience but experience.
And it will equalize everyone in the long-run so thereās really no point in fresh start right now at least.
Honestly this isnāt only from exploiting, this is more of a territory ownership issue. A lot of this ātreasure troveā are from company owners owning territories. Unless territory is directly related to money, nothing will change and whoever owns WW/EF will still have the advantage.
The problem is the territory ownership generating passive income. Monetary advantage should not be tied to territory ownership.
Itās not gonna be ignored, just not right now. Do you want to have the revamp only until lvl 25 or up to lvl 60 and beyond? It takes time and right now fresh start isnāt in the priority list. If they do add it, then good for you guys but I sincerely donāt think a lot of people will restart just for that.
I would definitely restart on a fresh server with no transfers.
Being part of a new developing server comunity is interesting.
The ānew startā feeling is one of the best impressions i had from this game so far.
What are the concerns of people who are against a fresh server like this? Why trying to dictate how other people should have fun or not? Just do whatever brings the most fun for you and let other players do the same.
I wouldnāt re-roll myself, but for Brimstoneās new player experience it would imo make sense to make one server per region that people cannot tranfer to, Iām sure there will be enough ppl who quit early last year and would want to start over, whole groups of people to have healthy population at least in EU and US.
Exploited gold earned from early game via territory ownership winning wars through foul play. āwhich companies from which serversā doesnāt even matter as people change company names, rebrand, went to different servers, disbanded etc and all that wealth was spread but now itās localised due to server merges.
Iām not saying you have to be one of those people to be where you are today - Iām not one of those people and can still competitively play in OPR & Arena & clear high mut expeditions.
I am speaking as if Iām one of the unlucky who feel cheated and left early.
As a person with 1.7k hours, I am fully ready to start again with my friends on a server where everyone is now level on a game that doesnāt nearly even reflect what it begun as. Sure, you donāt have to start again - donāt. There should be a lot of remainers with the same mindset.
Games one-time purchase - they will at least try.
Agreed, donāt think they should be released immediately - AGS should at least confirm theyāre on the board though.
Cross-server PvP instances will fix a lot of things - I doubt theyāll bring back players who feel cheated.
Played 1.7k hours as strictly healer, currently missing 7ish BiS pieces so thats 7 missing perks. I can compete against healers but iāll never be on the same playing field if my cooldowns arenāt optimally low (full refreshing) - again, Iām in the mind of a returning player wanting to compete from the ground up & if Iām in this position then I pray for them.
Yeah, not right now.
Also true, Iām talking more about the treasure troves that were awarded due to war bugs and exploits - dupes were a thing but holding EF/WW for months is the main problem and isnāt the problem fresh servers will solve.
imagine seeing all the hype and talk about new zone and content on forums and reddit meanwhile theyāre struggling past level 30. They wanna roll some BIS gear or craft new stuff released in BS but there is like 200 asmo on whole market and its expensive AF basically everything end game mats and trophies is either non existent or very rare and expensive. Devs please start fresh servers with above condition it will be alot of fun seeing their cries in forums 