Fresh start servers, calling it now

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This is going to be what happens. Anyone wanna take any bets?

I don’t think it’s a matter of if, but when.

When fresh start servers are implemented, the game will see a sizable population increase. Fresh start servers will be booming…absolutely no doubt about it. Hope AGS intends on making multiple servers to help with ques.

BUT, here’s the thing.

Most of these players, are hype followers. Band wagon players that give into hype, and blindly follow what their favorite content creators say and do. A lot of them being casuals.

The start, absolutely will be beatiful. I may even jump into it. Me, someone experienced and highly capable. That doesn’t need 625 GS to make you squirm. I also wont be alone. People hugely amazing at the game will be joining these servers. Players that spend 12-20 hours a day on the game. That has already made alts on other servers. Players that can speed level. A lot of them will also opt to buy gold. (More on that in a bit)

These players will make the game feel less fun to these players that dipped out early, because they simply couldn’t get past the bugs, and/or their favorite content creator started talking bad about the game. These casuals, they wont last. They’ll move onto the next game, thus leaving these servers inactive. Forums will then be filled with people begging to be merged into eachother. However, what good will that do? The same problems will exist, and the population of these servers will keep fading.

With all of this going on, the gold farmers will be making bank. I wouldn’t doubt that some of these players are also posting on the forums supporting the idea of fresh servers. They know they’ll make a huge chunk of cash, off of the players trying to speed level to be relevant in pvp and rush end game expeditions.

This is why, I will repeatedly keep HIGHLY suggesting that the servers have a dead line. After 6 months, these servers must be merged into the main game.

Would even suggest doing fresh start servers quarterly after this first time.

This fresh server experiment, is not going to go the way everyone hopes.

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They announced them a few hours ago actually! I’m sure someone can link it. Well announced an announcement haha.

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So why are we keep opening topics about this ?!seems pointless. We all know they Thoses fresh servers would be plagued with bots and just stockpile RSS till they can transfer out.

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Good analysis darkdayy, but here is an alternative scenario. Fresh start + a revision of the territory ownership system will attract a healthy pop. After 6 months open up the new servers to transfers. Assuming the new territory system is working well, there will be no need to merge the servers as others join.

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off topic

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I mentioned it in a different topic and my humble opinion is that a round of fresh servers will come with the release of the new patch. After a certain time transfers will be available there definitely

Everything released between now and the new patch are servers to counter queues and I hope people will finally massage this logic into their smooth brains

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Great that the seasonal andys are finally getting their will after crying for a week while PvP players have been asking for PvP servers for over a year. AGS - Developer of the people.

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I know bro :worried:

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I don’t really see them being able to do a lot with the territory system.

It seems like, to me, they’re implementing some sort of war cool down, requiring a certain amount of in house players to be on the declaring companys war roster, and redistributing wealth some how.

Big changes, but 2 will be countered by larger companys that already have established alts. Will be better than the current system though.

This isn’t really the only thing that players complain about with the main game. A big thing, but not the only thing. Casuals still wont be slotted or gain any real territory :rofl:

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Like it or not, AGS already have the hardcore playerbase, they want the casuals, every game should keep a influx of new players, who may or may not bacome hardcore.

If 10% of these new casuals streamer followers decide to stay, it’s still a win, and yes, every server will merge again.

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Can these people be unable to transfer out as well?

Worst parts of the playerbase have been pushing this and would rather not have big streamers dominate this world and then transfer out with their simps in tow.

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As long as they make merges available after 6 months or so I don’t see a problem with it. Let the players get their experience and when most of them quit by that time they’ll be able to merge. If no merges I see big issues in the future.

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  1. sweats get 60 in a couple days
  2. sweats take ww/ef
  3. wealth gap intensifies
  4. casuals complain they have fallen behind
  5. servers slowly die

but hey let’s open some fresh servers because it will be fun for a week or two :joy:

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Hard agree with this post.

Bandwagon players wont reach even level 60 as they didn’t before and won’t again now. The veteran players will play it for a few weeks, realize that they need to get everything by hand from crafting to gathering, get burned out and go back to their main server.

AH will be empty of any decent gear. People will get bored of grinding stuff from scratch.
Servers will die out and we back where we started.

New Players will get shafted the most since they will have to grind for so long just to get the gear which is pennies on the established servers.

Meanwhile gold sellers and RMT -ers will be laughing all the way to the bank

I would love these servers but this seems way too early. This ace in the sleeve needs to hold off for now.

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The idea of fresh servers stems from wow classic doing the same thing a month ago and it being successful. They also had stipulations where nobody could transfer in to these fresh servers for a certain amount of days (I think 90) and they would evaluate the health of the server at the point point to see if they would open transfers at that point. The same idea would apply here, I would say block transfers for at least 2 months, give the player base time to level up together and monitor server health like they do with every other server. Not sure why y’all are making these fantasies in your head about how this server turns out, at worst it fizzles down in pop after a month or so and they merge it into another server.

Also gold farmers are already on servers, it would take longer for them to accumulate wealth to sell on fresh servers with no transfers. There is no logic in this post, you seem upset by players that left the game after release and believe they are casuals or fanboys of a content creator.

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Where are you finding this posted? about fresh start servers

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Not really. These are players that legit play the game for a living. Some will run multiple accounts along side bots.

They will spend an insane amount of time playing the game. They will go after whats most profitable at the time, and spam the market with it.

Could not care less about the players that left. They started due to game being over hyped, and left due to disappointment and their favorite content creators talking down about it.

What I am upset about, is the possibility of catering to them and using resources, when they won’t even stick around.

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Gold farmers and sellers will be as rampant as they are on the regular servers because they can just set up bots and camp resource. I’m not against fresh servers but I’m also not naive as to think it will turn out how these casuals think it would.

First, the levelling experience. So 1-25 is going to be revamped for the Brimstone Sands expansion which is likely when these Fresh servers are going to come about. Do you guys ever remember anyone complaining about the 1-30 grind at launch? Because I sure as hell remember everyone enjoying that part of the game and it only becoming a slog after 30+. Players will get to level 25, 30 or even 40/50 then realize it’s the same game and the same grind that they gave up on a year ago at launch.

Second, the ‘fair start’. One of the main reasons all these returning players are saying they want this is because of dupes. While they most certainly happened, it did not affect the economy long term at all and I’d argue the economy is even stronger today than what it was at launch. Moreover, dupes were a drop in the bucket compared to how much gold companies make on a weekly basis owning Everfall or Windsward. These same tryhard companies are most definitely going to start over and fast track their way to 60 and 600+ gs gear in a week or less, take the main cities+the gold they generate and these casual players are going to be left in the dust again and will lose any motivation to continue going because how different are these servers actually going to be than the other ones the casual players had no hope in being the top dogs as they think they would be?

Fresh servers will be fresh for a week then the magic will disappear and the reality will be set for the returning players that fought so hard for this and will just find something else to play.

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Already bracing myself for all the returning Andys on the forums complaining after a week or two that other, more experienced players completely steamrolled them. Just so funny to see how delusional most of those players are, thinking they’re going to start on a new server with an even playing field.

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