Sure man , just like you said , liek in real life , if i dont wanna pay to McDonalds i prolly should go into the woods and start hunting ye ? Than build my own Fast Food empire.
Also how about " i " ( dunno why u think i am still playing , but ok ) , give you 300 coins and u for some reason get 3000 for my home ? fair right ?
I would honestly just be happy if attack and defense in war were more equal. You have to not only be better to win, you have to be A LOT better to win on attack. Defenders should not spawn on points, they should spawn in base. Less OP factions would have a chance that way.
IMO any system that somehow benefits the minority faction and aids them in taking territory from those clearly better and stronger than them is bad. The strongest faction has to work hard enough to defend and maintain ownership of their own land, dealing with multiple war times all the time. They have to gear up appropriately, manage their strongest players, and so on. It is a lot of work.
Why should some nobodies be able to swoop in and win land just because they are the “minority”. What is to stop people from switching factions, shifting the minority around, and so on, abusing such a mechanic.
The game favors the faction that the player base supports the most. The chads are where they are because the player base as a whole on their server supported them and contributed to their power, intentionally or not. Taxes dictate who the chads are, and if you want that to change your faction, and the runner up need to do something about that. It is very easy to dethrone the chads if you simply work together to not fund them and give them the income they need to keep gearing up and making their players stronger. Winning fights, reducing the level of craft related stuff in territories, it all contributes to weakening a city and faction. There is a reason there is 3 factions, and not 2, it means that if the other 2 work together there is never a faction that can be chad forever.
Its not the chads fault if you guys would rather work alone and selfishly to try and get to the top.
ok i have to stop arguing with you , just keep working hard man , u clearly winning at this game , keep working hard till population drops to 50 k , which is prolly next week.
Indeed man , those sad fucks better sit there in dirt and bang their heads at point A / B / C while u show them who is boss , i am sure they will stay and do that for months while buying costumes to keep the game up for you
Take a look around man. How often do you see people complaining about this issue. Very little, in fact. Maybe this is more of a You issue, than a game issue. Any competent players realize what they need to do. This is a player driven game, with a player driven economy, and player driven politics. It is literally no different than any other faction based PvP game, like WoW or Albion Online.
You are literally playing the wrong game and should quit right now, and no one will care if you do, if this is considered a problem for you. You don’t see the Alliance members crying in a 99% horde server that they need help from Blizzard to make the game easier for them. You don’t see players in Albion begging for help because their entire server is nothing under the feet of a single guild running trains on noobs across the Black Zone territories.
The only people who will be quitting this game are those who should never have started playing the game to begin with because clearly they did not read what kind of game it is before hand.
Aha , keep telling urself that , U didnt answer me how is 300 coins from a player turning into 3000 coins for Everfall / WW company is fair , which player was so economically gifted that this magic happened ?
well , NW is a good example than of what a game turns into if you let ppl like you do pOliTiCs n eConOmiCs .
That’s the compensation from AGS for a housing bug, that will soon end. 90% housing tax reduction + territory housing cost reduction makes it easier for players to keep homes, but AGS gives the city the original full housing tax value. Nonetheless that housing cost reduction will end soon, and thus you have 0 to complain about.
On Wednesday Green will likely lose its last territory.
First, I came from Rosetau which, after much storming and companies leaving because they either a) won too easily and were bored or b) lost a key territory and were angry the server was well balanced. Then we were moved to Yaxche which was predominantly yellow. Yellow and Purple have the most people and obviously the most money/best gear.
PvP Green has been trying hard. They run loot trains on the regular, and reach out to the other factions for help but Yellow and Purple have no interest. When they do fight with us we get poop-talked and ganked. Yellow even goes out of its way to gank the loot trains and bystanders. Fundamentally Green is too small for either side to care, so the notion that we should ally ourselves with the more powerful factions isn’t working.
Additionally there are a lot of PVE’ers in green. They don’t want to PVP but they will buy homes, contribute to faction upgrades, craft and provide materials. Their user experience is equally bad because travel costs, taxes, and trading are high and won’t change if the faction can’t hold turf.
To rub salt in the wound world transfers are currently disabled.
I have a hard time understanding how it came to this, but there’s really no path forward for under-represented minority factions. I think someone said it above, game life is just imitating real life.
lol really man ? companies in Everfall and WW and on some servers BrightWood /Ebonscale made 20-30 millions passively on it while it lasted , but hey it is gona end soon so ye, why should i complain , indeed. Oh how nice of them to let me pay les for houses…to bad ALL the companies turned it to extreme and abused the system for months ,. with AGS turning blind eye on it
This is the same problem any game has that splits players in 2 or more factions. But in this game, instead of providing an out like a server transfer, you just have to deal with it. With how lucrative taxes are, you have to just not use the trading post/own a house in the ‘capital’ cities. But if you do, you’re just farming for the people with the money while they can just use the profits to craft themselves further ahead. The prices on the trading post already inflated to the point where only the wealthy territories can afford anything.
On my server it was the same thing, Yellow and Purple owned everything and Green owned literally nothing. But now they have territory. Not as much as Purple and Yellow, but they have something.
On top of that however, Green is no pushover and they don’t just sit around and complain that their the minority. Contrary to belief more player numbers does not mean your faction is stronger, or better. Money and Gear only gets you so far, but if you suck in PvP then you are still going to lose.
At least on my server Green is trying, and in some fights they are better than Purple. But they don’t need to be given handicaps in order to make a difference on the server.
People are so dumb sometimes. Oh boo hoo my server sucks for my faction im going to take the easy way out and transfer elsewhere where maybe my faction is less trash and its actually doing something. Obviously that is not what AGS wants, hence disabled world transfers. Chads don’t stay chads forever, and in the long run everyone ends up in the same place. You can only get so geared, and money only gets so far. So if you have to play the long game oh well. Obviously if you given up your faction isn’t getting anywhere.
Hi CC, I sent you a message asking you to be respectful and helpful in your criticism. Really your attitude is part of the problem. I’d prefer you not post here - there are plenty of other threads, or you can start your own.
You are welcome to your opinion, but if you can’t express yourself respectfully, please post elsewhere.
The truth hurts. All I see is babies begging for help instead of taking action and making change on their own. They only care about the short term and don’t realize in the long term their problem is a non issue.
What these players are asking for is blasphemy and against this entire design philosophy of faction based PvP games. This is heresy and should be looked down upon. Instead players should be complaining about the poor combat, and unbalanced weapons and skills.
I have not seen a single suggestion in this thread of whining other than the minority should be given a handicap, which by design is unfair. If you are going to suggest treacherous game design decisions, at least come up with a viable solution.
Without stooping to your level, CC, I will provide a quote for you to consider from Amazon:
All builders welcome.
At AWS, we believe that technology should be built in a way that’s inclusive, diverse, and equitable. And we have a responsibility to make that happen. We have a long way to go, but we’re committed to putting in the work for more equal representation.
Please consider if you want to continue to get your posts flagged. It may not help you share your point of view.
AGS is different, and that is irrelevant to game design. Freedom of speech is a thing, feel free to have your feelings hurt. I have the right to give my feedback against those suggested here. Nobody wants this, and the lack of discussion about it proves that. I already said what can be done by the players, and if all that is a non option than oh well. In a few months every one will be max gear score, same gear, using the same builds, and same items fighting each other.
I wish there was a way to sneak into the enemy fort as a solo player or small teams and sabotage things. A kind of guerilla warfare against a superior foe.